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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:41 pm
by ZooTech
MattL wrote:However, I feel you are wrong when you say "Not the bike's fault. It's called self control." Because there is only so much self control will help you with. Anyone can accadentially jump on it too hard and it may not be too forgiving.
I think you're applying an overzealous amount of anthropomorphism.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:52 pm
by MattL
I actually had to look up "anthropomorphism". Nice vocabulary
Anyways, like I said before, we obviously have different views of acceptable beginner practice.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:14 pm
by ZooTech
MattL wrote:Anyways, like I said before, we obviously have different views of acceptable beginner practice.
You're right. Personally, I think the best way to learn is on dirt. You can drop the bike all you want and rarely get hurt. And once you master riding a motorcycle through the woods and over creek beds then street traffic will be a piece of cake. But I still don't worry when newbies jump on liter bikes. A gun has the potential to kill you, but you still have to pull the trigger.
I'm a huge proponent of personal accountability, can't you tell?

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:28 pm
by TeamONEinc
I actually have never even considered thinking, let alone stating a claim that I know more than the experienced riders on here...I enjoy reading their advice and take every word they have to offer.
I wont give you my age simply because that will be another stereotype that you will use against me as well as my decision for purchasing this bike.
Its a tragedy that you have lost three friends in relation to motorcycle accidents and the fact that they said they could handle the power....was that the only factor leading to their crash or were there multiple factors....cages, road obstacles, etc...that played a part in the accidents.
You automatically have labeled me and stereotyped me that I'm a risk to others and the safety of those around me when in reality you have no facts to use against me as an individual except for the stereotype which you have built from previous experiences with different people.
I have not even thought of being a master of my bike...not even close...in any aspect....let alone the skill of riding....but I am enjoying each time I take it out of my garage and practice the skills and techniques which will hopefully help lessen the "dangerous risk" that I am to those around me when I ride.
I am well aware that I will be safer and learn better on a smaller bike, but I have chosen not to go that route and will continue to learn on my R6 with the confidence it takes to become a good rider.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:03 pm
by kabob983
MattL wrote:I'm not sure about you're personal experiences but I have lost three close friends on bikes because they thought they could handle power. The old saying "Just because it's there doesn't mean you will use it" doesn't allways apply. What happens when you get scared accadentially? What happens if you hit a pot hole and get scared? What if you get so full if you're self and think you have mastered you're bike? Well thats when it happens. And it isn't allways pretty.
I'm with you on this issue. Sure that throttle on the end of the right handlebar does what it's told, and as stated if you hit a pothole and accidentally "tell" it to gun it...it will. Guy at my workplace did something similar to this.
I don't want to dog you as it's not my place, but I really do agree. Sell that thing off and get a smaller bike to learn on. For an '03 R6 you'll be able to get a nice GS500, EX250/500 and some great riding gear while still being able to pocket a good bit of $$. You can try to justify your choice by saying that you'll be safe and you're not going to be a stereotype, but remember, stereotypes come from lots of truthful experiences!
Be safe
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:10 pm
by TeamONEinc
That is true but the majority of people on here use the negative stereotypes and do not even use the slightest bit of discretion to recognize the latter.
I am not even considering the option of selling the bike and getting any other bike. The Yami will be my first bike and its final. I am sorry to disappoint those that feel I am dangerous and am doing something unsafe.
I look forward to chatting with VermilionX as he seems to be the only one open to talking with me and my bike and not down on me. I almost feel as if I should have lied and told you that I have been riding bikes for years and have five of them in my garage. Then I would probably be able to engage in more interesting and enjoyable conversations.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:12 pm
by ZooTech
TeamONEinc wrote:I look forward to chatting with VermilionX as he seems to be the only one open to talking with me and not down on me.
What am I, chopped liver?

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:14 pm
by VermilionX
ZooTech wrote:TeamONEinc wrote:I look forward to chatting with VermilionX as he seems to be the only one open to talking with me and not down on me.
What am I, chopped liver?

yeah, zoo is pretty open.
he also rides w/o helmet.
no helmet laws in ohio.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:14 pm
by TeamONEinc
Oh yeah! Sorry Zoo Tech. I knew there was someone else on here that seemed interesting to engage with. I gotta get some pics up on the web so I can bring them on here and show you guys.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:31 pm
by < I Fly >
The first bike I rode was a CBR-1000 but it wasn't mine. I have to say I did pretty well on it.
That said, I was being pretty conservative how I rode it, so you damn well better too. One twist too far of that throttle and you'll get your "O Ring" kicked!