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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:22 pm
by flynrider
Water injection has a purpose in high compression, hot, turbocharged aircraft and racing engines. Those engines run with much smaller detonation margins than a properly designed passenger car or motorcycle engine. If a car needs water injection, it's either a race car or a race car disguised as a production car. Besides that application, modern intercooled turbos used in normal cars don't require water injection.

I remember that J.C. Whitney used to sell a water injection kit in the snake oil section of their catalog (along with hp boosting spark plugs). I remember because my goofball brother actually bought one for his '66 Mercury station wagon :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:31 pm
by dieziege
LOL... J.C. Would!

I'm trying to remember what car came stock with water injection.... some old (early 60s) oldsmobile... lemme look...

"In 1962 and 1963 Oldsmobile built a turbocharged version of the 215, the Turbo Jetfire. The small-diameter turbocharger was manufactured by Garrett AiResearch and produced a maximum of 5 lb (0.34 bar) boost at 2200 rpm. The engine had 10.25:1 compression and a single-barrel carburetor. It was rated at 215 hp (160 kW) @ 4600 rpm and 300 ft·lbf (406 N·m) @ 3200 rpm. The high compression ratio created a serious problem with spark knock on hard throttle applications, which led Olds to use a novel water-injection system that sprayed small amounts of distilled water and methyl alcohol (dubbed "Turbo-Rocket Fluid") into the combustion chambers to cool the intake charge. If the fluid reservoir was empty, the engine's timing would be mentally challenged to avoid engine damage. Unfortunately, many customers did not keep the reservoir filled, or had mechanical problems with the turbocharger plumbing." -- Wikipedia.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:26 pm
by Skier
ZooTech wrote:
Skier wrote:Actually, guys, small amounts of water poured into a carb has good effects for the combustion chamber.
Can we use your bike to define "small amounts"? :lol:
Certainly. I've already sucked Seafoam through the vacuum inlets on the carb boots when the bike was running. We'll find out exactly how much is too much.

... on the Katana. :laughing:

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:45 pm
by 9000white
Pongo wrote:
.....i.e. in a car, you have to pour water into the carborator
:lol:

At last! The answer to high gas prices.
well at least one good thing came out of Katrina.everybody in new orleans now has plenty of fuel. :giveup:

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:12 pm
by ShawnKing
JWF505 wrote:the video im posting is a high side, a very extreme high side but a highside none the less.
Wait...is it still a high side if he never actually got thrown off the bike? :)

Watching the video I kept thinking,. "Dude! *Let go*!" :)

fd

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:10 pm
by Dirtytoes
idk if you've noticed or not, but i made this thread 3 days ago and this will be my first reply......my hard drived fried! damnit, i lost so much crap....i finally installed some crappy version of windows and i'm back up. :mrgreen:

but anyway, when i said pour water into the carborator.....i meant...

"do i have to pour water ANYWHERE into the bike?"

da

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:48 am
by Dirtytoes
oh and ya, nice video...i wish i could recover from a high side like that on my bike. :roll:

Re: please explain x-siding

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:09 pm
by BubbaGump
Dirtytoes wrote:P.S. really off topic but am i supposed to pour water anywhere into the ex500? .....i.e. in a car, you have to pour water into the carborator....is it the same for the ex?
I don't check the website for ONE day - and I miss out on awesome information like this! My truck doesnt have a carb...but im sure I can get water in the FI system somehow.... :banging: