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The Suzuki SV1000 is not that great, its not as fast as the Honda CBR600 or the Yamaha FZ6. plus the SV1000 has a engine that sounds like something inside is loose and falling apart, the only reason guys install high performance exhaust to it cause it covers up the junky sounding engine noise. Buy The Yamaha FZ1, 150HP, sweet sounding engine, light weight , easy to handle, looks good too. Pick up some cute biker babes with the FZ1 they wanta be seen on a hot looking and hot sounding bike.

MotoF150 wrote:The Suzuki SV1000 is not that great, its not as fast as the Honda CBR600 or the Yamaha FZ6. plus the SV1000 has a engine that sounds like something inside is loose and falling apart, the only reason guys install high performance exhaust to it cause it covers up the junky sounding engine noise. Buy The Yamaha FZ1, 150HP, sweet sounding engine, light weight , easy to handle, looks good too. Pick up some cute biker babes with the FZ1 they wanta be seen on a hot looking and hot sounding bike.

I don't think you've read my posts. I don't want an inline four. I want a bike that has an engine with massive low end torque, and inline fours just don't provide that. I don't care about all-out speed. A bike with massive torque is much more fun to ride than a bike with high RPM HP.
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grampi wrote:

High_Side wrote:I've got Superhawk #120 in the garage from the first model run of the first year they were made. It's a great bike, if a little uncomfortable for the long run, as well as limited in fuel range. It is more comfortable than the old TL1000, the RC-51, and the SV1000S. The engine also has more bottom end than any of these other bikes. I used to get a new bike every 3 years and now I'm in to my 10th season with the same bike. The new stuff that I've ridden just doesn't move me the same way. If you get the opportunity to try one, go for it. It sounds like you are looking for exactly what the VTR is.
There may be a 650 V-Strom in my future, but I will be keeping the VTR...

You would probably be able to answer some of my specific questions that would help me decide if I'm going to be interested in a VTR. I will probably make references to the V-Max as I owned one, and because its engine had a lot of the qualities I like in an MC engine.

The Max made a good deal of low end grunt. In fact, it is was the champ for top gear roll-on performance for years. I'm looking for something with more low and mid RPM punch than the Max had. How hard does the VTR pull at low RPM's, and at what RPM does it start pulling? 2000? 2500? How hard does it pull during top gear roll-ons? What RPM is the VTR turning at 60 MPH? Also, is the VTR capable of running 10 sec 1/4 mile times? Thanks.

Hopefully I get most of this close:
First off - no on the 10 second 1/4 mile times. 11.2sec in magazine language, but I really think it has the measure of any real-world V-max in a real-world drag race. As for 1/8 mile, it is hella-fast. The torque get's it moving real-quick, real easily.
Secondly - if I remember right you are running about 3100rpm at 60mph...
Thirdly - it will pull from real low - the irony here is that I have had the bike so long I don't spend alot of time looking at the tach So as a guess, it will pull from 2500rpm.....
Lastly, if you test one, try to find one with non-stock pipes......the sound will sell you on the bike alone.....

Are you saying the hawk turns 3100 at 60, or are you talking about the max? The Max turns almost 4000 at 60. I heard a hawk with some aftermerket pipes a while back and it's the only bike I've ever heard that sounds as mean as a Max with pipes! The hawk sounds badass!
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I was talking about the VTR. The spread of power is so wide that you have a choice of 3 different gears for most occasions.....

I have owned 1 inline 4 ('81 CB-750)
and 2 V-twins ('03 SV-1000 and '03 VTX-1800)

And I can say that now I've discovered how much fun torque is I probably won't be going back until I can have more than 2 in the stable.

The SV was great, painful now that I think back since I got teh VTX, but when I had it I didn't mind the position all that much for a sportbike. Still put a pain in my back after almost 1500 miles in the first week I bought it.

I liked the SV sound, especially if you get some aftermarket cans for it.
I think it put out a bit over 70 rear wheel torque, somewhere around 110-120 HP if I remember correctly. And it would do 60 in First gear.

If your talking V-twin, your really comprimising. If you want torque nothing but a big bore V-twin will do it, but if you want HP you need the engine to spin higher RPM's which needs smaller pistons and hardware = smaller displacement.

Most V-twin sport bikes are in the 1000cc range which seems to give them rough 70's for torque and HP 100+.

The Ducati's although sounding nice and looking nice are expensive and often hard to find a dealership to service them.

The Superhawks aren't bad. I liked my SV-1000. I hear the RC51 has a more agressive ergo's, but I don't know.

Hope I helped a little, I can't really give you an answer other than Yeah, I like the V-twin sportbikes better than the inline 4's. Your not going to (or shouldn't be) using the 150+mph of the inline fours, so why not settle for a measly 148mph top end and get a whole lot more bottom end grunt where you can actually use it.

Oh and the sound is soooo much better. I love the rumble over the "flying bee" sound anyday.

I sat on a new SV 1000S today and I know I'm not going to get one of these. The seating poistion is WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too radical for my liking. It puts too much pressure on the arms, and more specifically, on the wrists. I need to find a Hawk to test ride. I've been told it's more comfortable. The problem is finding one.
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what about just upping the sprocket on a japanese bike? trade speed for punch

mysta2 wrote:what about just upping the sprocket on a japanese bike? trade speed for punch

Last time I checked, Hondas and Suzukis were japanese bikes.
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Grampi, I'm too old for sportbike ergos as well, but riding the SV1000S is different than sitting on one. You are changing position slightly winding through traffic and this gives some relief to shoulders and arms and eventually the wind blast takes some strain off the forearms. Having said that, I'm also going to have to pass the SV and look at something more tame. Have you considered the 1000cc V-Strom??, even the 650 is a blast and much more comfy than the SV's.