Question about 1000cc or very powerful bikes as starters

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NorthernPete · Wed May 17, 2006 4:13 pm

your little "more posts then you" just saying I got no problem with it, and that you have more Miles under your belt then me too most likely...
My bike is a POS.

Whats your siggie mean?

camthepyro · Wed May 17, 2006 4:19 pm

Oh. I assumed you had more miles, I've only ridden maybe 300 miles so far.

The sig was a joke with Myself_02, and StyleZ. Means: Dudes Who Passed On Mother's Day. Because we all pased the MSF on mother's day.

NorthernPete · Wed May 17, 2006 4:21 pm

ahhhh..inside jokes are great.....and nope... 360 kilometers..... thats it... it keeps breaking...

camthepyro · Wed May 17, 2006 4:23 pm

That sucks, I always thought you had been riding for a long time. Both your bikes keep breaking?

NorthernPete · Wed May 17, 2006 4:24 pm

one keeps breaking..the other has never been not broke

restoring the maxim, and the seca is just hair tuggingly irritable ATM.

#26 Unread post by **Kal** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:32 pm

You are right all speedos do start at 0 however

0-60 time for the ZX-6R 3.49 seconds* - look at your watch. Thats how unforgiving this bike is.

I would list the 0-60 time for a 250cc lower bhp bike, but I can't find one listed in Bike , however it is a lot, lot less giving a rider a lot more time (comparitively) to correct an error.

Source: Bike June 2006

dieziege · #27 Unread post by **dieziege** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:19 pm

GPX250 0-60 is 5.75 seconds according to wikipaedia.

#28 Unread post by **Kal** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:13 pm

Damn you. I'll now have to go check out the GPX250!

Ah thats the 250 Ninja?

So effectively the 250 Ninja gives you twice the time to react to a problem than the R600 and

As they both have a six gear transmission each degree the throttle is turned through on the ZX6R resultes in much more power being released.

Other joys on sports bikes are sportsbike brakes and very high centre of gravity making the bikes less inherently stable.

Why are the brakes a problem? Because they are designed to pull the full mass of the bike down from its top end speed to zero in the quickest possible time. So if the rider panics (and we all do from time to time) and then grabs a handful of brake the bike is going to try to stop instantly, and all that speed has to go somewhere.

The high centre of gravity, in my opinion this is what makes sportsbikes sportsbikes. The higher the centre of graity the less inherinetly stable a bike is, or rather the more 'flickable' it is.

There is some part of us that says its quicker reacting, surely it could be safer but the way it works out in the real world is that when it goes pair-shaped the bike reacts to the riders inputs before the rider is aware of what his inputs are - which means that possibly just for seconds the bike is out of control.

Most downs on bikes happen because the rider is not in full control of his/her machine and where it is going.

This lack of control can cause a down on any bike - I lost it on a 11bhp 125cc machine - but losing control on a supersports is easier, because they are designed to be unstable and to react to rider input as quick as thought.

While some folk do manage to successfully learn on a supersports they are further stacking the deck against them when the odds are that a new rider will have an accident in the first two years.

I'll quote a couple of other forum members, "riding is all about calculated risk" and "When you begin riding you have an empty bag of experience and a bag or luck. The aim of the game is to fill the bag of experience before the bag of luck runs out."

So if you are serious about the ZX6R, the question you should be asking yourself is do you feel lucky?

Hope that helps.

camthepyro · Wed May 17, 2006 6:26 pm

So if you are serious about the ZX6R, the question you should be asking yourself is do you feel lucky?

Haha "So they question is, do you feel lucky? Huh, do ya... punk?"

Gotta love Dirty Harry. On a side note, my best friend has a Smith and Wesson .357, that gun kicks major "O Ring". One pull of the trigger, and my arm is sore

. Ok, that was an exaggeration, but still, that gun is ridiculously powerful.

Dragonhawk · Wed May 17, 2006 6:36 pm

camthepyro wrote:Gotta love Dirty Harry. On a side note, my best friend has a Smith and Wesson .357, that gun kicks major "O Ring". One pull of the trigger, and my arm is sore . Ok, that was an exaggeration, but still, that gun is ridiculously powerful.

So I guess if someone "masters" how to shoot a BB gun, they can just run off and start firing that Smith and Wesson .357 like they were Billy The Kid. After all, "it's not the gun, it's the person-with-delusions-of-grandure pulling the trigger", right?