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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:04 am
by macktruckturner
Rest assured that track surface temps anywhere in Texas far exceed that of your California tracks. I have worked in the pits during an 8hr Endurance Race at Texas World Speedway - one of the steepest banked superspeedways ever, which regularly blew out cage tires when using the full oval - it's been a long time since the back half of the oval was torn away and the roadcourse built, using only the front straight. Anyway, the average temperature through the race was 112F. That's average, from the morning "cool" at 0900hrs to 1700hrs when it ended. The high was 125F. You could grill steaks on the pavement. There were some blowouts, and they were all soft compound race slicks. Not a single DOT approved tire failed, to include the droves of lightweight and middleweight class bikes running supersport street compounds (in that day the Dunlop D207).
Put bluntly, your desire to buy race rubber is not one based on reality, need, or a real and true advantage.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:30 am
by Big B
dieziege wrote:It's all about talismans -- physical representations of magical power -- for Verm. It's the sword, not the skill to wield it; the gun, not the ability to shoot; the guitar, not the ability to play; the racing motorcycle, not the ability to race. Read what he writes... there are two repeating themes: Look at how cool this thing is, and ability is always luck. "If I'm lucky enough to race ..." "If I owned this +5 gi my life would be better" "He was lucky to start at a young age ..." "I can't ride on a track unless I have racing tires" It's never skill or dedication, never hard work or commitment... it's always something outside of the individual's control...or for sale.
It's so silly... he rides so little, spends so much energy thinking about new talismans to acquire... and ends up having a lot less fun than people who buy those 25cc midget-bikes. If he had bought a used 250-500cc bike and track prepped it himself, spending a total of maybe $3000, he could've been out on the track 20+ times for the money he's wasted on fancier bikes, crappy add-ons, insurance premiums, and other silliness... and he wouldn't have had a bike stolen... and he would know more than 90% of the riders on this forum... and perhaps actually be ready to get a 600cc track bike and ride it to half its potential by this time next year. As it is, he's a wannabe of the worst sort.
+1 and he dismisses all contradicting opinions. i've never understood that, he'll ask for help, but won't listen to the advice given if it's not what he wants to hear
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:45 pm
by shane-o
VX
any chance ya could strap that cam onto your bike for ya trak day, then host it up ?
I reckon I could sell it as a training vid for nubs titled "what not to do in your first year of riding" id make a killing
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:33 pm
by VermilionX
shane-o wrote:VX
any chance ya could strap that cam onto your bike for ya trak day, then host it up ?
I reckon I could sell it as a training vid for nubs titled "what not to do in your first year of riding" id make a killing
yeah sure, i'll see how much a video cam setup for the trackday is and i'll do it if not too much.
and i'll post it even if i crash. *knocks on wood*
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:08 pm
by High_Side
shane-o wrote:VX
any chance ya could strap that cam onto your bike for ya trak day, then host it up ?
I reckon I could sell it as a training vid for nubs titled "what not to do in your first year of riding" id make a killing
You couldn't be more wrong. His riding skills will improve more in one day of track riding than in a couple of years or more of riding on the street. The begginer class is generally full of noobs, many of which are worse off for skills than Verm I'm sure. The pace is set to the lowest common denominator (they usually run 3 different classes of noobs at our track days), and THEY TELL YOU where you need to be. The restricted passing, slow pace, and the ability to follow a leader who knows what he is doing will help him immensely. Verm might have done many things "wrong" in his quest to get better, but attending a track day is not one of them.....
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:31 pm
by Mintbread
dieziege wrote:It's all about talismans -- physical representations of magical power -- for Verm. It's the sword, not the skill to wield it; the gun, not the ability to shoot; the guitar, not the ability to play; the racing motorcycle, not the ability to race. Read what he writes... there are two repeating themes: Look at how cool this thing is, and ability is always luck. "If I'm lucky enough to race ..." "If I owned this +5 gi my life would be better" "He was lucky to start at a young age ..." "I can't ride on a track unless I have racing tires" It's never skill or dedication, never hard work or commitment... it's always something outside of the individual's control...or for sale.
It's so silly... he rides so little, spends so much energy thinking about new talismans to acquire... and ends up having a lot less fun than people who buy those 25cc midget-bikes. If he had bought a used 250-500cc bike and track prepped it himself, spending a total of maybe $3000, he could've been out on the track 20+ times for the money he's wasted on fancier bikes, crappy add-ons, insurance premiums, and other silliness... and he wouldn't have had a bike stolen... and he would know more than 90% of the riders on this forum... and perhaps actually be ready to get a 600cc track bike and ride it to half its potential by this time next year. As it is, he's a wannabe of the worst sort.
Excellent post.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:01 pm
by shane-o
High_Side wrote:shane-o wrote:VX
any chance ya could strap that cam onto your bike for ya trak day, then host it up ?
I reckon I could sell it as a training vid for nubs titled "what not to do in your first year of riding" id make a killing
You couldn't be more wrong. His riding skills will improve more in one day of track riding than in a couple of years or more of riding on the street. The begginer class is generally full of noobs, many of which are worse off for skills than Verm I'm sure. The pace is set to the lowest common denominator (they usually run 3 different classes of noobs at our track days), and THEY TELL YOU where you need to be. The restricted passing, slow pace, and the ability to follow a leader who knows what he is doing will help him immensely. Verm might have done many things "wrong" in his quest to get better, but attending a track day is not one of them.....
well i agree with you on your bike selection, as I also ride a super hawk.
as far as the rest goes "blah blah blah blah" wat eva burns ya worm