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#21 Unread post by VermilionX »

Yngvai X wrote:Ok, well have to consider I JUST started riding. ie. i dont know what friction zone is..
that's cool, im new myself.

but yeah.. try that power walking i mentioned. it's super boring but it's a good way to get familiar w/ your bike's friction zone.
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#22 Unread post by Yngvai X »

lol.. you still havnt told me what friction point is! so i dont know how to power walk
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#23 Unread post by Indred »

What I believe he was trying to tell you is. From a stop (you could be at idle or even 2k but try idle at first) and slowley let out the cluch. You will feel the bike creep foward. Pull the cluch back in and come to a stop. Do that a few times till you are able to predict where that is every time. Then you should be ready to start all over but let out the cluch all the way. Just keep letting it out slow and this will allow you to adjust the throtle accordingly to your speed.
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Yngvai X wrote:So this.. 2mph course thing.. is that where you find the bite point and just give it a tiny bit of throttle? just enough to get it rolling or what?
oh and when you said practice releasing the clutch, did you mean practice finding the bite point and right after i start to roll for a little bit, release the clutch?
You are getting there.

Bite point - little bit of throttle and the bike should start moving forwards.

From there you can release the clutch a little more to get the Bike to go faster or pull it in towards you to slow the bike down.

Best way I can describe it is
the throttle sets how much power the engine is to make

the clutch sets how much of the engines power is allowed to get through to the back wheel.

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Make a fist with your left hand. This is your hand holding the clutch in. Now I want you to open your hand to the count of three seconds. 1 and 2 and 3.

Now I think on this side of the computer screen at least :) that is the kind of speed your hand needs to be moving on the clutch.
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#25 Unread post by VermilionX »

Yngvai X wrote:lol.. you still havnt told me what friction point is! so i dont know how to power walk
friction zone is the point where the clutch is almost released but not quite.

- sit on your bike.
- then very slowly release the clutch.
- stop the release when you feel the bike move even just a little and hold the clutch in that position, that is the friction zone.


it's not the same for all bikes so you have to get used to what you ride.
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#26 Unread post by Kal »

Yngvai X wrote:Ok, well have to consider I JUST started riding. ie. i dont know what friction zone is..

and no i havnt taken any courses yet, i am sep 16/17/19
Well lets see what we can do to get you to the course intact.

Friction zone is "Microsoft English" for Bite point. :)

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Yngvai X wrote:So this.. 2mph course thing.. is that where you find the bite point and just give it a tiny bit of throttle? just enough to get it rolling or what?
oh and when you said practice releasing the clutch, did you mean practice finding the bite point and right after i start to roll for a little bit, release the clutch?
You are getting there.

Bite point - little bit of throttle and the bike should start moving forwards.

From there you can release the clutch a little more to get the Bike to go faster or pull it in towards you to slow the bike down.

Best way I can describe it is
the throttle sets how much power the engine is to make

the clutch sets how much of the engines power is allowed to get through to the back wheel.

Up for trying something?

Make a fist with your left hand. This is your hand holding the clutch in. Now I want you to open your hand to the count of three seconds. 1 and 2 and 3.

Now I think on this side of the computer screen at least :) that is the kind of speed your hand needs to be moving on the clutch.


ok, so that 3 seconds thing.. you mean when i open my hand the clutch needs to be released like that fast from.. friction point? and then adding throttle? thats kinda fast, i deff sit there for a few seconds and try to alternate them and yeah i mess up and end up revving it higher than i want to.
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#28 Unread post by Yngvai X »

Indred said this.. You will feel the bike creep foward. Pull the cluch back in and come to a stop. Do that a few times till you are able to predict where that is every time. Then you should be ready to start all over but let out the cluch all the way.

so i think im understanding this a little more.. after i can predict were the friction point is, i need to give it throttle as im letting out the clutch as above me said.. like 1 2 3 open fist.

wow that must sound confusing.. :laughing:
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#29 Unread post by Kal »

Yep. From the bite point. Don't worry about over reving the bike - concentrate on your lefthand.

It's your lefthand that decides how much power the rear wheel is getting.

It's onmly complicated when you are thinking your way through it instead of doing it. Once your clutch control improves you will not have to think about it this much again.
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#30 Unread post by Yngvai X »

hmm so lets say i can predict were the friction point is.. while im doing the 1 and 2 and 3 am i giving it some throttle? because yeah it basically rolls forward without it.
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