Im going to H e LL

[Shiv]

I don't agree with the UCLA incident. If cops could just taser people who pissed them off the world would not be a good place. Nor do I agree with them tasing the guy after he wouldnt' stand up. HE JUST GOT FRICKIN TASERED! It's god damn hard to stand up after getting hit with a taser (I've been hit with one by a friend on a dare) and the fact that the cops didn't take that into consideration just tells me they're ill trained in the use of their weapon, or just wanted to tase him for some other reason (anger, racism, hate, stuff like that).

[Shorts]

The people yelling the loudest about "injustices" are ignorant of the fact the "poo poo" they pull to warrant attention is the same.


"..oh brutality!...what's your badge #!...patriot act!..." Give me a "procreating" break. If you were so concerned about doing things "the right way" you wouldn't have acted like a dip "poo poo" and done were suppose to in the first place and abided by the rules and regulations.


As for having ID on campus, how could you not have it in your wallet, purse or backpack? Do you not carry your driver's license? Do you not carry money? Yes, I have forgetten my ID a couple times when I'd take it out from where it belongs and left it on my dresser. MY FAULT! But if I was asked to leave because I did not have it, then I'd gather my "poo poo". They are called "consequences". Apparently the concept of "consequences" elludes a lot of society these days. Apparently having "rights" negates "consequences"

[Nalian]

The people yelling the loudest about "injustices" are ignorant of the fact the "poo poo" they pull to warrant attention is the same.


"..oh brutality!...what's your badge #!...patriot act!..." Give me a "procreating" break. If you were so concerned about doing things "the right way" you wouldn't have acted like a dip "poo poo" and done were suppose to in the first place and abided by the rules and regulations.


As for having ID on campus, how could you not have it in your wallet, purse or backpack? Do you not carry your driver's license? Do you not carry money? Yes, I have forgetten my ID a couple times when I'd take it out from where it belongs and left it on my dresser. MY FAULT! But if I was asked to leave because I did not have it, then I'd gather my "poo poo". They are called "consequences". Apparently the concept of "consequences" elludes a lot of society these days. Apparently having "rights" negates "consequences"

If I don't have my license with me that doesn't mean I should be tazered. People forget "poo poo" all the time. It isn't against the law to travel without an ID - even on college campuses. According to witnesses - the kid was leaving when the people bearing the tasers arrived. They didn't need to do anything other than watch him leave, but apparently their britches were too big for that. Hope they like the video of the whole thing when they're in court - especially the part where they threaten to taser another student who asked for their name and badge number.

Having rights should negate unnecessary harrassment. I'm not saying all cops are bad anymore than I'm saying all *insert group here* are bad. But there's an IAB in every precinct for a reason, and I have enough family and friends working in PDs to know what kind of "poo poo" they both have to put up with, and what kind of "poo poo" the bad ones try to pull. There are a lot of shady people out there overall, and they work all kinds of jobs.

If a cop refuses to give his badge number, thats usually a pretty good indication that he/she knows that what they're doing isn't right.

[Shorts]

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If I don't have my license with me that doesn't mean I should be tazered.

You're making an irrational jump, I know you're smart enough to know you dont automatically get tazered for not carrying a license. So don't even think that argument is logical.

But there is a consequence. Insert consequence of having no license when you're required to carry one and are caught without: _________________.

Its up to you to abide. If you don't, you get hit with a ticket, or warning or whatever. If you start irritating the situation, the LEO will see fit to handle it. If you keep escalating, he'll escalate.

This didn't go from 0-60 in no time at all. He was told to leave by campus security, and he refused. A call was placed by campus security to the police and they were dispatched to take the situation. Upon hearing that, the guy tried to flee, they tried to detain him, he resisted and threw and tantrum.

[Mintbread]

he resisted and threw and tantrum.

Tantrum?

His response was worthy of a broadway musical!

[Shorts]

he resisted and threw and tantrum.

Tantrum?

His response was worthy of a broadway musical!

I didn't even watch the complete vid I was sick of his blabbering uppity righteous bullshit - I felt like tazering him.

Edit: the ucla incidnt was posted on another forum before this so I've got a headstart on info. One guy from there posted up with detais that were not completely evident from the vid.

[JC Viper]

At least this isn't Germany where you have to carry your papers around to show if asked for by a cop.

Anyhow many kids today with the "child abuse" thing are way too spoiled. A man got jumped by some teens and when he fought back and put a hurt on them their parents hit him back with a lawsuit and a few days in prison. Of course these kids were "minorities" so justice be damned.

Then a few days ago a cop was being rammed with a huge SUV by some guy packing heat and speeding on local streets. When the driver pinned the officer the guy picked picked up his gun but was shot by the cop before he could fire. Now the community wants a proper investigation to make sure it wasn't racist.

But I dunno, cops with too much power end up screwing innocent people over too... but so far it's been only a few.

[Shorts]

But I dunno, cops with too much power end up screwing innocent people over too... .

That's true, there have been mistakes made. The problem is, cops often lose in a big way if they underestimate the situation. They learn, you get burned enough by the fire, you don't touch it with bare hands. Instead, you handle it differently than before.


I guess overall my view is that guy lost the benefit of the doubt when he began acting up. Take your medicine.

[Nalian]

But I dunno, cops with too much power end up screwing innocent people over too... .

That's true, there have been mistakes made. The problem is, cops often lose in a big way if they underestimate the situation. They learn, you get burned enough by the fire, you don't touch it with bare hands. Instead, you handle it differently than before.


I guess overall my view is that guy lost the benefit of the doubt when he began acting up. Take your medicine.

I am going to agree to disagree with you. In my opinion, not only did the cops overreact, but that situation happened a lot faster than what you're describing. From the time he was asked for ID to being tasered was 5 minutes by witness accounts. And I still disagree with cops resorting to tasering that quick - they're just being lazy "Donut Holes".

[jonnythan]

I see a lot of "he was tasered because he didn't have his ID."

That's false.

He was asked to leave because he didn't have his ID.

He was tasered because he resisted the cops asking him to leave.