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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:28 am
by William
MotoF150 wrote:Any bike over 10K miles will have some engine problem issue and can't be trusted

you have to understand a motorcycle engine revs up to 5 times faster than a car engine and that shortens the life of the engine,

they are designed as a throw-away bike, they are never cost effective to repair, ur better off to replace it and buy a new one.
In response to the first statement, that's totally untrue. I know of many, many motorcycles with much more than 10,000 miles that run just fine. I have a coworker that has a '99 Ninja ZX9 with over 110,000 miles. He rides it very hard and has never had it apart. He trusts it just fine.

My ST1300 has about 38,000 miles and I trust it just fine. It can be trusted.

As far as the second statement goes, "a motorcycle engine revs up to 5 times faster than a car engine"? Where did you come up with that? The typical car engine has a redline of about 5500 to 6000 RPM. So you are saying a bike engine can rev up to 27,500 to 30,000 RPM. What planet are you from?

NO motorcycle engine can rev up to 5 times as much as a car engine.

As far as the third statement goes, show me a bike that is a "throw away bike". Never cost effective to repair? I can do many repairs on my ST1300 that are way cheaper than replacing it. So how am I better off replacing it?

I am not better off replacing my bike instead of repairing it.

It appears to me that you are so stupid that you will never learn how to state facts. Either that, or you just love to tell lies.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:46 pm
by William
MotoF150 wrote:My Ford F-150 is running at 1800 rpm at 70 mph

My Suzuki M50 is running at 6000 rpm at 70 mph

its too light to ride any fat girlfriends on the back
Okay, so 1800 x 5 is 9000 RPM. So 6000 RPM is not 5 times.

All modern motorcycles have a rev limiter that limit the engine to a certain RPM that is lower than the maximum that the engine can stand.

As long as the rev limiter works and the bike has plenty of oil and a good cooling system, and as long as the oil and filter is changed when it's supposed to be, there's no danger of engine damage from the RPM the engine runs at from idle to redline.

So you are wrong.

Either way, quite a few people here have posted data that proves you wrong about bikes being throwaway items and also about how many miles they can go.

A bunch of people here have proven you wrong about a bunch of things you say.

And I thought that you only attract good looking women.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:52 pm
by skoebl
MotoF150 wrote:My Ford F-150 is running at 1800 rpm at 70 mph, its a 05 F150 FX4 the ONLY truck with a fully enclosed boxed frame that can tow 11,000 lbs and hold a bed payload of 3850 lbs, it will take 2 Chevy trucks to do what my F150 can do. My Suzuki M50 is running at 6000 rpm at 70 mph and I can't tow anything and its too light to ride any fat girlfriends on the back
Uh....according to all the places I looked....the '05 F150 FX4 only has a towing capacity of 8300 lbs....
The 07 Tundra has a towing capacity of 10,800....

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:53 pm
by Shorts
edit: double post

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:54 pm
by Shorts
MotoF150 wrote:My Ford F-150 is running at 1800 rpm at 70 mph, its a 05 F150 FX4 the ONLY truck with a fully enclosed boxed frame that can tow 11,000 lbs and hold a bed payload of 3850 lbs, it will take 2 Chevy trucks to do what my F150 can do. My Suzuki M50 is running at 6000 rpm at 70 mph and I can't tow anything and its too light to ride any fat girlfriends on the back

...but it's a Ford :sick:

Your numbers are WAY over payload capacity anyway. Pull better ones out your butt next time. 2290lbs is max, depending on the engine size, box size and chassis config - it's a 150 after all (granted, manf specs are conservative due to people like you who probably overload anyway, but 1500lbs, yeah right).

As for your towing, again, your stating more than 2k over max capacity. And you certainly wouldn't be towing 11k additional if you're carrying 3k+ in the box. GVWR max is 7200.

Someone should have taught you how to load.

Don't forget you're running with an auto tranny = OD. Only the V6 is available with a manual tranny. What's your gearing? Anything over 3.55s with 265 tires is putting you easily over 1800 rpms. You do tow in Drive, right?

And you're probably getting "poo poo" for mileage too. Neighborhood of 8-12mpg if you're lucky.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:38 pm
by SMITE
Regardless of how much horse dodo you think your ford can haul, you were shown to be full of the same when it comes to your "knowledge" of motorcycle engines. :lol: Did you just start ridin this year? You really should get out of your parents basement and learn more of the world (of motorcycles that is). BTW lets see your pretend truck put on the milage of my GMC, probably go thru 3 of those ford motors huh?

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:14 pm
by skoebl
MotoF150 wrote: The Tundra has a "C" channel open frame.
Actually the Tundra is a hybrid, unibody-on-frame, which is fully boxed in the front half, rolled C-channel in back.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:21 pm
by Shorts
MotoF150 wrote:2005 Ford F150 FX4, 4x4 5.4V8 with 3.73 rear with limited slip, 6 foot bed, std cab, max payload is 3850 lb and towing cap is 11,000 lbs and the FX4 has the heavier and wider rear leaf springs than the STX and the XLT models. The frame on all F150's are a fully enclosed boxed frame with inside and outside welded crossmembers, and thats the reason why the F150 exceeds every other truck in payload and towing. The Tundra has a "C" channel open frame. Case Closed! The F150 is the best truck!

- 5.5' bed
- Max payload 3k lbs
- Max tow 9,900lbs

F-150 FX4 Adds:

* ]Body-color front and rear bumpers (with monotone paint), or
* Dark Shadow Grey front and rear bumpers (with two-tone paint)
* Black "bar style" grille insert
* Wheel-lip moldings
* Black leather-wrapped steering wheel
* Black rubber off-road floor mats
* Overhead storage system (on SuperCab and SuperCrew)
* Sport cloth seats

Package FX4 has nothing to do with the options available for the 150. While most of the actual working options may come most often on trucks with the FX4 package, FX4 package doesn't include suspension upgrade options - unlike Chevrolet which does actually name their packages (Z85, Z71, etc) that do include actual working upgrades aside from astheticsand creature comforts.

And it doesn't nor ever dream of coming close to "exceeding every other truck in payload and towing". Get your facts straight or start naming your variables.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:56 pm
by jonnythan
Shorts wrote:
MotoF150 wrote:2005 Ford F150 FX4, 4x4 5.4V8 with 3.73 rear with limited slip, 6 foot bed, std cab, max payload is 3850 lb and towing cap is 11,000 lbs and the FX4 has the heavier and wider rear leaf springs than the STX and the XLT models. The frame on all F150's are a fully enclosed boxed frame with inside and outside welded crossmembers, and thats the reason why the F150 exceeds every other truck in payload and towing. The Tundra has a "C" channel open frame. Case Closed! The F150 is the best truck!

- 5.5' bed
- Max payload 3k lbs
- Max tow 9,900lbs

F-150 FX4 Adds:

* ]Body-color front and rear bumpers (with monotone paint), or
* Dark Shadow Grey front and rear bumpers (with two-tone paint)
* Black "bar style" grille insert
* Wheel-lip moldings
* Black leather-wrapped steering wheel
* Black rubber off-road floor mats
* Overhead storage system (on SuperCab and SuperCrew)
* Sport cloth seats

Package FX4 has nothing to do with the options available for the 150. While most of the actual working options may come most often on trucks with the FX4 package, FX4 package doesn't include suspension upgrade options - unlike Chevrolet which does actually name their packages (Z85, Z71, etc) that do include actual working upgrades aside from astheticsand creature comforts.

And it doesn't nor ever dream of coming close to "exceeding every other truck in payload and towing". Get your facts straight or start naming your variables.
The F150 line has a higher payload and towing capacity than any other full-size truck IIRC.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:02 pm
by Shorts
"fullsize truck" - again, not specific.