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the fact that you turn the bars in different directions depending on high or low speed, makes self cancelling ones a pain

Gummiente wrote:And just in case you believe the Kawi literature about it being exclusive to them, the Royal Enfield had a neutral finder on their bikes as far back as 1950.

And they still do!

Because the Enfield Bullet has as many (false) neutrals as it has gears (and no neutral light), boy is it necessary. Before setting off you stomp on the Enfield neutral finder - hard (it's a little button on top of the gearbox) and whaddya know you are in neutral.

Well, not quite. If that doesn't work, you roll the bike forward a little and try again.

It's hilarious.

talldude wrote: From the link for anyone else who may be wondering:

"Positive Neutral Finder system is a device that prevents the transmission from shifting from first into second when it is at a standstill. Once the bike is under way, the centrifugal force of a spinning transmission shaft disengages the device, ideally allowing unhindered upshifts."

I must admit that a few times or more "once the bike is under way" I have definitely managed to shift from first to neutral vs. second and hit the throttle hard... and nothing...

KarateChick wrote:

talldude wrote: From the link for anyone else who may be wondering:

"Positive Neutral Finder system is a device that prevents the transmission from shifting from first into second when it is at a standstill. Once the bike is under way, the centrifugal force of a spinning transmission shaft disengages the device, ideally allowing unhindered upshifts."

I must admit that a few times or more "once the bike is under way" I have definitely managed to shift from first to neutral vs. second and hit the throttle hard... and nothing...

Hi KC

I'm pretty sure we could start a club for this one.

The gearbox on the SV is a little looser now that it once was and I seem to be doing it more often. That's my excuse, anyway.

Nibblet99 wrote:the fact that you turn the bars in different directions depending on high or low speed, makes self cancelling ones a pain

Just like caqes there is a point in the middle somewhere that will work for most drivers. Yet not always as we've all seen the person going around the world to the right.

KarateChick wrote: I must admit that a few times or more "once the bike is under way" I have definitely managed to shift from first to neutral vs. second and hit the throttle hard... and nothing...

I'm still trying to get used to my kz1000, and I don't know if it has a transmission issue or if it's just the way it is, but in between 4th and 5th, if you do not feel two clicks when shifting, it will not go into gear... It's embarrassing when you are next to a car with the windows open.