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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:03 am
by Sev
If it connects to the tank it's likely an overflow or vent. In which case it's not going to make a difference if it's cracked or not.

It's designed to either let excess gas flow out of the tank, or to let air come in to replace the gas that leaves.

I'd need a better picture to be sure though, can you get one with an arrow pointing at the tube, and one of where it connects to the tank?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:25 pm
by ocean
mydlyfkryzis wrote:I thing an on board charger is a great idea. The only draw back will be that 80 mile long extension cord you will need to drag behind you.
That is why i was wondering about a small, solar powered trickle charger that would be easily attached and unattached to bike out of the way on the bike. For bikes that seem to have issues with charging themselves properly as they should from a flaw in design somewhere. Its one of the few, common issues with this particular type of honda motorcycle that ive read about many people having similar issues with the built in charging system of the regulator rectifier and battery simply not doing their charging while driving job adequetly.
Hopefully this will be resolved with the new battery i installed a few days ago, installation of new spark plugs and hopefully some more riding. or maybe more work such as carb cleaning, jet adjustments... will be helpful too? I bought a new oil filter and ( quite expensive at over $8 per quart ) synthetic 10W-40 motorcycle oil ) to drain out old oil, change oil filter and refill with @ 3 quarts of new oil.
As was stated earlier, if you get your electrical system functioning properly, you should be able to ride normally without the battery going dead.

There are ways of improving the performance of your charging system. Most of the wiring in the charging system is a little undersized on a bike. Rewiring the charging system with higher gauge wiring and making sure all connections are clean and tight will go a long way to alleviating your problems.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:37 pm
by ocean
Sev wrote:If it connects to the tank it's likely an overflow or vent. In which case it's not going to make a difference if it's cracked or not.

It's designed to either let excess gas flow out of the tank, or to let air come in to replace the gas that leaves.

I'd need a better picture to be sure though, can you get one with an arrow pointing at the tube, and one of where it connects to the tank?
This is the tube, to the left of the multicolored wires, after i wrapped some black electrical tape around its torn end.

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Another topic - can these carburetor cleaners -

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...egoryCode=3230
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...egoryCode=3230
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...egorycode=3230

- that come in aerosol spray cans at Kragen be used to clean this motorcycle carbs simply by spraying the stuff at carbs while the vehicle is off? Though some cans say to only use while vehicle is off and others say they can be used while vehicle is running. And some for fuel injected and others only for non fuel injected vehicles. NOOB question i know, but are motorcycles like this fuel injected? I dont see this in my honda nighthawk manual, so assuming they are not.
Though I dont even know if these types of products can be used on and would be even useful for motorcycle carbs? I know, my mechanical infancy is showing here. If these products can be used, how exactly and where specifically do we spray / use them for a motorcycle?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:02 pm
by Sev
To actually clean a carburator you need to remove it from the bike and dissasemble it then spray it full of carb cleaner, blow it out with compressed air and repeat... multiple times.

And yes, it's carburated.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:15 pm
by ocean
Sev wrote:To actually clean a carburator you need to remove it from the bike and dissasemble it then spray it full of carb cleaner, blow it out with compressed air and repeat... multiple times.

And yes, it's carburated.
Thanks. sounded like it could be used on vehicles simply by spraying the stuff on the carbs, but i had a feeling it isnt that simple on motorcycle carbs.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:21 pm
by Sev
I can't get the links to work. But based on your description... it sounds like an exterior cleaner?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:56 pm
by ofblong
I would suggest using seafoam in the gas tank for that.

links, carb cleaner, seafoam & grades of gas to use?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:22 pm
by ocean
Sev wrote:I can't get the links to work. But based on your description... it sounds like an exterior cleaner?
Funny, the links worked when i put them in and tested after posting. But not working for me either now.
So here are a few links to other similar carb cleaning sprays Im referring to, and an article i just was reading a minute ago on similar subject.

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products ... product=47

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products ... product=52

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/pc-1039 ... -7559.aspx

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/c-148-c ... aners.aspx

http://www.hondabikes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9507

Also, i was just reading about someone using seafoam in their gas tank to help alleviate the same fitful running, poor idling, backfiring and stalling symptoms ive been having with my bike. That it helped clear up the carbs somehow too. ??
Any experience or suggestions on using this seafoam in motorcycle gas and ??
Seafoam - http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTech.htm


What are peoples experiences here with using regular, midgrade and premium unleaded gasolines in their motorcycles? Also, is it okay to mix the grades of gas in ones cycle if there is a different grade left in the tank when we go for a refill? Or should let it run as close to empty before refilling with a different grade of gas? Ive heard some say only premium is healthy to use, then others saying that premium may sit longer and thus have more sediment and go bad more frequently than regular - so to use regular gas. i think ive mixed premium and regular gas in my honda nighthawk once or twice. put in premium a few days ago again.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:32 pm
by badinfluence63
I built a bike or 2 over the years and it was always reccomended to get a 2 stage kit. I forget who now. But first stage was meant to get the inside if the tank as free of debree as possible by pouring the stuff in (plugging all exit holes of course) and shaking vigorously and then draining. When dry a coat of this white gooey stuff was poured in and shook around to coat the inside and drain off excess

I think it was called "Kreem" I don't know but here's this:

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Cycle-T ... 89C38.aspx

Hope it helps or is even what your talking about.

As far as the carb..easy fix attempt is to run some carb cleaner through the tank if the carb is running. If not take off, soak in gas. Here's others with same problem:

http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/archive/t-8426.html

Re: links, carb cleaner, seafoam & grades of gas to use?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:00 pm
by ofblong
ocean wrote:
Sev wrote:I can't get the links to work. But based on your description... it sounds like an exterior cleaner?
Funny, the links worked when i put them in and tested after posting. But not working for me either now.
So here are a few links to other similar carb cleaning sprays Im referring to, and an article i just was reading a minute ago on similar subject.

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products ... product=47

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products ... product=52

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/pc-1039 ... -7559.aspx

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/c-148-c ... aners.aspx

http://www.hondabikes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9507

Also, i was just reading about someone using seafoam in their gas tank to help alleviate the same fitful running, poor idling, backfiring and stalling symptoms ive been having with my bike. That it helped clear up the carbs somehow too. ??
Any experience or suggestions on using this seafoam in motorcycle gas and ??
Seafoam - http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTech.htm


What are peoples experiences here with using regular, midgrade and premium unleaded gasolines in their motorcycles? Also, is it okay to mix the grades of gas in ones cycle if there is a different grade left in the tank when we go for a refill? Or should let it run as close to empty before refilling with a different grade of gas? Ive heard some say only premium is healthy to use, then others saying that premium may sit longer and thus have more sediment and go bad more frequently than regular - so to use regular gas. i think ive mixed premium and regular gas in my honda nighthawk once or twice. put in premium a few days ago again.
you should do a search on tmw as there are many threads about seafoam on here. One guy, i remember, said he has been using it for like 20 years and has YET to have to actually clean a carb up even though he takes it apart to make sure its not dirty. I have used it and yeah it smells at first but then it goes away. It smells because its getting rid of the gunk thats in there. I also have used it in my oil the day before doing an oil change. Helps get all that "sludge" out of the internals. trust me I do mean sludge cause I get that out when I use seafoam, the directions even recommend it. Though everytime I do it it seems to be less and less sludge coming out so I am pretty sure its doing its job :D. Bike runs better as well. well other than my dead battery problem lol.