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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:54 am
by Skier
Wet pavement gives about 80% of the traction as dry pavement.
Anything else can be slippery as ice: lane markers, manhole covers, etc...
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:51 am
by shalihe74
Skier wrote:Wet pavement gives about 80% of the traction as dry pavement.
Anything else can be slippery as ice: lane markers, manhole covers, etc...
And that is traveling in a straight line at a steady speed when all the traction can be used to sticking to the ground.
Any input you give the bike (e.g. accelerating, decelerating, turning), will reduce the amount of traction available for staying in contact with the tarmac.
Take tire trust out of the picture, and just slooooooooow down.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:24 am
by Johnj
There is a bridge on I-35S that is south of downtown which has an expansion joint in the middle of a right hand turn. It really feels squirrely to cross that at speed while the road is wet.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:09 pm
by Skier
shalihe74 wrote:Skier wrote:Wet pavement gives about 80% of the traction as dry pavement.
Anything else can be slippery as ice: lane markers, manhole covers, etc...
And that is traveling in a straight line at a steady speed when all the traction can be used to sticking to the ground.
Any input you give the bike (e.g. accelerating, decelerating, turning), will reduce the amount of traction available for staying in contact with the tarmac.
Take tire trust out of the picture, and just slooooooooow down.

The bike will still require x amount of traction to turn or brake. The difference is you have 0.8y traction before the tires slip, opposed to 1.0y traction.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:47 am
by shalihe74
Skier wrote:shalihe74 wrote:Skier wrote:Wet pavement gives about 80% of the traction as dry pavement.
Anything else can be slippery as ice: lane markers, manhole covers, etc...
And that is traveling in a straight line at a steady speed when all the traction can be used to sticking to the ground.
Any input you give the bike (e.g. accelerating, decelerating, turning), will reduce the amount of traction available for staying in contact with the tarmac.
Take tire trust out of the picture, and just slooooooooow down.

The bike will still require x amount of traction to turn or brake. The difference is you have 0.8y traction before the tires slip, opposed to 1.0y traction.
Ain't dat what I done sayed?

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:15 am
by Skier
If tires magically floated away from the pavement when they lose traction, sure.

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:59 am
by shalihe74
Skier wrote:If tires magically floated away from the pavement when they lose traction, sure.

They don't in your world? Wowie wow wow!!
Fair point, however; I was having vocabulary issues that day.

For the life of me, I couldn't come up with the word(s) for what happens when you lose traction...

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:13 am
by Skier
I like to call it a skid or slide.
