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iwannadie wrote: i like how new riders think they are some how safer because they have an experienced rider with them... as if that other experienced rider can do anything when you lock the braks up in a turn because you dont know any better... well i guess they can help you pick the bike up afterwards and give you a ride home, or call 911 for you.

I don't think I'm any safer with experienced riders, unless you DO mean so they can call 911 for me. I was just saying that an even newer rider than me was trying stoppies and christs while I was still trying to learn to ride better.

I didn't read what everyone else wrote about the SV650, but I've had it for about 7 months and I like it. It SEEMS to be a good beginner bike for me.

Sevulturus wrote:... In fact I wish that I'd learned on a UJM or ninja or something. Because I had a lot of bad habits as a result of the very relaxed steering on my LS650 when I switched to the 599. In fact I spent the first part of my ride swerving around a fair bit because I used to make little shifts in my arm position to alleviate strain. This didn't do anything on the Savage, but on the Hornet... it was a big thing. A UJM, or smaller sportsbike would have better prepared me for that sort of thing.

This is a good point. Chris rode my bike home from burger king, and I rode his vulcan for this very reason. He's trying to get used to the more forward riding position. He has a few miles on his Hurricane, but it's been in the shop for some time, and he is getting ready to take it out this week. He agrees with Sev that the ujm is a better starter bike for a guy looking to upgrade to a sportbike. I would think the sv650 is very similar ergonomically. A 1/4 inch here or there can make a difference, though. My bike puts my feet below and slightly behind my rump, causing a slighlty leaned forward position. Lower bars would make that more severe, and I may do that to stretch my back out more. I'm used to it from cycling so many years. Good luck with the new bike. Power-wise, it's very similar to mine, but yours is lighter, so just be careful. Mine will wheelie in second gear, so I'm sure yours can.

Check out this website and DO THESE THINGS! You won't be sorry.

http://www.ridelikeapro.com/

FattyJ wrote:I've noticed alot of new riders get real stupid also. I started riding in November of last year. A couple months after that there is a new rider riding with us. He'd been riding for about 2 weeks and has laid down his bike about 7 times. Also, for his first bike, it was a SuperHawk 999 (I think). Now that he's been riding a few months, he's dropped it a couple more times, and is also doing stunts. I guess he's trying to do a 'christ' now, while I'm still trying to master normal riding.

He sounds like a nobel prize winner to me

ronboskz650sr wrote:

Sevulturus wrote:... In fact I wish that I'd learned on a UJM or ninja or something. Because I had a lot of bad habits as a result of the very relaxed steering on my LS650 when I switched to the 599. In fact I spent the first part of my ride swerving around a fair bit because I used to make little shifts in my arm position to alleviate strain. This didn't do anything on the Savage, but on the Hornet... it was a big thing. A UJM, or smaller sportsbike would have better prepared me for that sort of thing.

This is a good point. Chris rode my bike home from burger king, and I rode his vulcan for this very reason. He's trying to get used to the more forward riding position. He has a few miles on his Hurricane, but it's been in the shop for some time, and he is getting ready to take it out this week. He agrees with Sev that the ujm is a better starter bike for a guy looking to upgrade to a sportbike. I would think the sv650 is very similar ergonomically. A 1/4 inch here or there can make a difference, though. My bike puts my feet below and slightly behind my rump, causing a slighlty leaned forward position. Lower bars would make that more severe, and I may do that to stretch my back out more. I'm used to it from cycling so many years. Good luck with the new bike. Power-wise, it's very similar to mine, but yours is lighter, so just be careful. Mine will wheelie in second gear, so I'm sure yours can.

Check out this website and DO THESE THINGS! You won't be sorry.

http://www.ridelikeapro.com/

Thanks for the link and Ill keep you all updated on my progress, I might start a blog as Sev suggested.

I decided, regardless of the date, Ill take it (the MSF course).

I decided, regardless of the date, Ill take it (the MSF course).

Good decision, it's worth the investment

And Sev, I wasn't really refering to you, just stating something I noticed a lot in general. Sorry if it came across that way.

For now my FZ is proving to be good for me, but who knows what'll happen, maybe in the future I'll look back and say I should've done it different. At lest for now I'm having fun.

Please keep us informed on the SV. I was looking at it initially and I'd really like to hear your experiences with it.

Stupid question time!

What's a "christ"? I'm assuming we're talking about stunts, not Jesuses.

This is just pure guess work on my part, but I'm thinking a "Christ" would be standing up on the pegs with both arms outstretched. Is that right?

Cheers,
Loonette

Loonette wrote:This is just pure guess work on my part, but I'm thinking a "Christ" would be standing up on the pegs with both arms outstretched. Is that right?

Cheers,
Loonette

Close, but you stand on the tank with your arms out. I'd love to see someone do one as they rode into a brick wall. Now THAT would be a stunt!!!