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#21 Post by beginner » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:30 pm

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beginner wrote:In a thread now closed someone asked the diameter of the circles in this video. The channel owner says 5 meters which would work out to 16.4'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ns_82h ... ture=email
Thanks beginner - I need to find a good place to work on this. Especially when I get the new bike. RhadamYgg
16.5' is a reletively tight figure 8. His circles seem bigger than that but i'll take his word for it. Also tryng to do them as "perfect" circles raises the difficulty some more.

Early on I could do reasonable figure 8s in 4 parking spaces by cheating a little, fattening the ends. Over time, quite a lot of time, the steering got more and more accurate and staying inside a true 18'by36' box got gradually easier. I learned to do them without clutch or brake and spent many hours doing them and in variations. It was worth all the time spent and I'll be doing them next season.
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#22 Post by Brackstone » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:30 pm

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RhadamYgg wrote:
beginner wrote:In a thread now closed someone asked the diameter of the circles in this video. The channel owner says 5 meters which would work out to 16.4'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ns_82h ... ture=email
Thanks beginner - I need to find a good place to work on this. Especially when I get the new bike.

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#23 Post by Brackstone » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:32 pm

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CaptCrashIdaho wrote: "Highsiding" is when you lose the rear, it hooks back up and snaps the bike upright, generally catapulting the rider. When you slip/drift/slide the rear highsiding is a very, very grave danger.
Here's one for the ages:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/AE357091 ... crash.aspx
wow I don't think I've seen a high side that bad before.
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#24 Post by jstark47 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:56 am

storysunfolding wrote:If you master it then you'll be king! 8)

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#25 Post by OreoGaborio » Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:09 pm

storysunfolding wrote:It's all about being smooth. Gymkhana shows very precise control of the motorcycle. You use your body weight, trail braking, and many advanced techniques to get through a parking lot obstacle course as fast as possible.

These guys are hamfisted in their controls and you see what you'd expect
Exactly. Those guys are crashing because they're pushing the outer edges of their bikes' capabilities (even IF they're only going 20mph or less)...

Other than that, there's no ONE answer that explains why all of those riders crashed. Some were too "snatchy" with the brakes, some were too abrupt with the throttle and I'm sure some were too stiff on the bars as those are all very common mistakes... but crashing is part of racing & that video shows one form racing.

I'm sure you've gone faster & made tighter turns, but you're also riding on more advanced technology, I'm sure.
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#26 Post by beginner » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:15 am

OreoGaborio wrote:
storysunfolding wrote:It's all about being smooth. Gymkhana shows very precise control of the motorcycle. You use your body weight, trail braking, and many advanced techniques to get through a parking lot obstacle course as fast as possible.

These guys are hamfisted in their controls and you see what you'd expect
Exactly. Those guys are crashing because they're pushing the outer edges of their bikes' capabilities (even IF they're only going 20mph or less)...

Other than that, there's no ONE answer that explains why all of those riders crashed. Some were too "snatchy" with the brakes, some were too abrupt with the throttle and I'm sure some were too stiff on the bars as those are all very common mistakes... but crashing is part of racing & that video shows one form racing.

I'm sure you've gone faster & made tighter turns, but you're also riding on more advanced technology, I'm sure.
Here is a nice video of smooth gymkhana riders. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3TP2UJ ... re=related What's interesting about the beginners is how easily they loose traction and dump their bikes even though they are going a fraction of the speed of the smooth riders. Here is the original video of the beginners. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRbZYOW4wmU I wonder how many hours the smooth guys practiced compared to the beginners.
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