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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:30 pm
by beginner
RhadamYgg wrote:Thanks beginner - I need to find a good place to work on this. Especially when I get the new bike. RhadamYgg
16.5' is a reletively tight figure 8. His circles seem bigger than that but i'll take his word for it. Also tryng to do them as "perfect" circles raises the difficulty some more.
Early on I could do reasonable figure 8s in 4 parking spaces by cheating a little, fattening the ends. Over time, quite a lot of time, the steering got more and more accurate and staying inside a true 18'by36' box got gradually easier. I learned to do them without clutch or brake and spent many hours doing them and in variations. It was worth all the time spent and I'll be doing them next season.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:30 pm
by Brackstone
storysunfolding wrote:RhadamYgg wrote:
Thanks beginner - I need to find a good place to work on this. Especially when I get the new bike.
RhadamYgg
If you master it then you'll be king!
Oh man, I'll be here all week
Boooooooooooo
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:32 pm
by Brackstone
TEvo wrote:CaptCrashIdaho wrote:
"Highsiding" is when you lose the rear, it hooks back up and snaps the bike upright, generally catapulting the rider. When you slip/drift/slide the rear highsiding is a very, very grave danger.
Here's one for the ages:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/AE357091 ... crash.aspx
wow I don't think I've seen a high side that bad before.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:56 am
by jstark47
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:09 pm
by OreoGaborio
storysunfolding wrote:It's all about being smooth. Gymkhana shows very precise control of the motorcycle. You use your body weight, trail braking, and many advanced techniques to get through a parking lot obstacle course as fast as possible.
These guys are hamfisted in their controls and you see what you'd expect
Exactly. Those guys are crashing because they're pushing the outer edges of their bikes' capabilities (even IF they're only going 20mph or less)...
Other than that, there's no ONE answer that explains why all of those riders crashed. Some were too "snatchy" with the brakes, some were too abrupt with the throttle and I'm sure some were too stiff on the bars as those are all very common mistakes... but crashing is part of racing & that video shows one form racing.
I'm sure you've gone faster & made tighter turns, but you're also riding on more advanced technology, I'm sure.
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:15 am
by beginner
OreoGaborio wrote:storysunfolding wrote:It's all about being smooth. Gymkhana shows very precise control of the motorcycle. You use your body weight, trail braking, and many advanced techniques to get through a parking lot obstacle course as fast as possible.
These guys are hamfisted in their controls and you see what you'd expect
Exactly. Those guys are crashing because they're pushing the outer edges of their bikes' capabilities (even IF they're only going 20mph or less)...
Other than that, there's no ONE answer that explains why all of those riders crashed. Some were too "snatchy" with the brakes, some were too abrupt with the throttle and I'm sure some were too stiff on the bars as those are all very common mistakes... but crashing is part of racing & that video shows one form racing.
I'm sure you've gone faster & made tighter turns, but you're also riding on more advanced technology, I'm sure.
Here is a nice video of smooth gymkhana riders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3TP2UJ ... re=related What's interesting about the beginners is how easily they loose traction and dump their bikes even though they are going a fraction of the speed of the smooth riders. Here is the original video of the beginners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRbZYOW4wmU I wonder how many hours the smooth guys practiced compared to the beginners.
