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The cool thing about motorcycle throttles (or any throttle for that matter) is that you get to choose how much gas to give your engine at any given time. The YZF600 is an excellent choice for a beginner bike. The handling is sharp, the bike is light, and the brakes are responsive. Yes, it has the potential to go fast...so what? You can't die riding a NightHawk 250??? My co-worker is 6'5" and weighs near 300lbs. He began riding just last summer and bought a Honda Hawk (1000cc) as his "beginner" bike and it paid off in spades. The bike was very forgiving and, in the end, once he learned how to ride it didn't bore him to death.

Just be sure your first bike is light and easy to ride, that's all. Only complete idiots go out and race their motorcycles on day two, and frankly I appreciate their willingness to cleanse the gene pool!

btw thx alot MAG7C, well said, i appreciate constructive opinions like that...well written , unlike alot of other clowns trying to make fun of my posts.....i would like to get the skills first of course, and the reason i want to ride i because i love the feeling, and i love driving too, so i want to know whats best to start out on , i dont have all the money in the world to burn on all these bikes, and i want something that will last for a couple of years, and not have to worry about re-selling etc....so thats why i suggested the yzf or cbr because alot of people i know who ride bikes say those are decent ones to start for people in my position...im a pretty big guy too so i know the smaller ones might not be the best idea.... and i really dont like the 500ex or GS500F too much, so any other advice you can give is appreciated...thanks again Mag7c, talk to u later

hey zootech, thanks as well... i agree with you 100%, you can get hurt on any bike, and i have some great spots to practice for a while to get comfortable, and im not a crazy driver or anything so i think i will be fine, thanks again, see you around

NuRida wrote:hey zootech, thanks as well... i agree with you 100%, you can get hurt on any bike, and i have some great spots to practice for a while to get comfortable, and im not a crazy driver or anything so i think i will be fine, thanks again, see you around

Hey, no problem. My first bike was a '78 CX500. It wasn't all that fast, but it was really tall and very top-heavy. It also had crappy brakes, primitive suspension, and bias-ply tires. In my opinion, the YZF600 is far safer to learn on that that old thing! Just don't be foolish with your right wrist and all will be well. This belief that everyone HAS to learn on a Ninja 250 or Rebel 250 is bunk! It really comes down to how much dexterity, maturity, and conceptual knowledge of physics you bring to the table. Some people need to avoid the street all together while learning and pick up a used 4-stroke dirt bike to learn on in the grass, before heading out into traffic. But for the YZF600 to be an automatic "no-no" just because of it's speed potential is indefensible at best.

for sure man..., well its nice to hear someone agrees with me anyways. im pretty mature and safe in all regards, and i know some people shouldnt be allowed to drive cars, never mind bikes!!! so why dont people yell at them to start on a '75 civic before buying a mustang? etc, same crap i think, if i started to learn on a ferrari i still think i would have been fine, its all in your head i think anyways, and i know how to control machines....obviously i will have to take it easy for the first bit, but i think i can handle it, peace bud.

plus i think its a fallacy for people to straight up tell me im going to kill myself and laugh at my post. if you are going to make a valid argument thats one thing...but if your just going to come out and call me dumb then that has no weight and i just dis-regard those comments... anyways, ps i know my physics, hehe,

NuRida wrote:SIMMER DOWN!!! i just ask a question, why is everyone getting all pissy with me and calling me an idiot, relax, i just wanted some opinions, thats all, geez!!!

You were pointed at the list of suggested bikes 3 times so far. By ym count you've made 4 posts asking about bikes which are not on the list. We have explained WHY they are not good starter bikes. We have explained some of the difficulties involved in even getting a bike to turn. Yet you keep coming back asking about bikes you know we aren't going to recomend.

If you're concerned primarily about looks then I have to say biking is not for you. If you're truely into biking for "the feel" then it doesn't matter what kind of bike you're on. You'll love it regardless.

Maturity is not the issue here, taking it easy is not the issue here. Skill is the issue here. And you don't have any, not yet. So do you want a bike that will forgive the mistakes you are going to make while you are learning? Or do you want a bike that will do exactly what you tell it to do and catapult you into the sidewalk?

I'm not going to tell you again that you're headed down the path to a lot of pain. Instead I'm going to say that when you do crash try to avoid hitting solid objects. Those are the things that will do the most damage to you.

Here's two other threads by you asking the exact same question...

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New Riders

I just don't understand what you're after here?

first of all, how do you know how many posts im making and where? dont you have anything better to do? second of all i love your sarcasm...dont hit solid objects, they will do the most damage to you , haahahh your so funny, ps dont shot yourself in the head, it might hurt.... see where im going? listen man, your obviously an annoying individual trying to harass me, so you need to back off a bit, i was just trying to get some feedback untill you came in with your 2 cents, making fun of me. so i dont want to hear from you again. later

and ya, i posted in some different forums because i want to hear a range of opinions, not just from one guy like you, who thinks he is the king and knows everything about bikes, so "pee" off

i didnt come here to pick a fight, i came here to ask some questions, either talk with some respect, or dont talk to me at all

Sevulturus wrote: Maturity is not the issue here, taking it easy is not the issue here. Skill is the issue here. And you don't have any, not yet. So do you want a bike that will forgive the mistakes you are going to make while you are learning? Or do you want a bike that will do exactly what you tell it to do and catapult you into the sidewalk?

So what, pray tell, is this perfect starter bike that is unable to be crashed? All 250cc mopeds aside, I'm gonna assume the Kawasaki Ninja 500R is on your list of approved starter bikes, so let's compare, shall we?

- The 500R weighs 388lbs vs. the YZF600's 412lbs

- The 500R has a 30.5" seat height vs. the YZF600's 31.7"

- The 500R has a 56.5" wheelbase vs. the YZF600's 55.7"

- The 500R's rake and trail are 27/3.6 vs. the YZF600's 25/3.82

So, the only differences here are two things:

1) The YZF600R has more power, and therefore more speed potential

2) The YZF600R is probably much sexier than the bike you and most others started on, and that just burns you up inside!

Look, I'm tired of so many riders pretending like riding a motorcycle is comparable to being an F15 fighter pilot or an astronaut or something! Yes, it takes skill, know-how, patience, and balls to ride...but stop prescribing YOUR method of learning to everyone else! I didn't learn on a small, light, or by any means "forgiving" motorcycle...but I learned nonetheless. Your beef with his choice of bike is silly! Since when is the YZF600 unforgiving? Sticky tires, sporty brakes, aggressive lean angles, short wheel base....sounds perfect if you ask me! And once he's got the hang of it he won't have to stick it in the front yard with a "For Sale" sign on it because it's too small to ride on the freeway (like every 250cc bike on the market). I subscribe to three major motorcycle magazines and they consistently refer to the Suzuki SV650 as the "Perfect Beginner's Bike". Last I checked, the SV650 was displacing a few more than 250cc's...

Zootech, thanks again bro, this guy is a punk, you know your stuff man, and your making way more sense then this other clown, peace