Re: Who Builds the best bikes?
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:25 am
Not true. By the 1960s are certainly the early 70s, Japanese imports were certainly NOT considered cheap and nasty disposables. By the early 70s, some of the best TVs, High Fidelity equipment, camera and motorcycles were made in Japan.ceemes wrote: Ahem.....back in the 60's and early 70's Japanese Imports were the by-word for cheap and nasty and disposable cars and electronics.
They had achieved this by the mid 70s.ceemes wrote:By the mid 80's they had been transformed into the benchmarks for quality and reliability.
South Korean automakers arrived here in the mid 1980s. To even compare South Korea to China is blasphemy and a total insult to South Korea. That being said, they struggled tremendously and it took far longer for them than they had ever imagined to even come close to par for the industry. To this date, their quality is nowhere up to snuff of the Japanese competition.ceemes wrote: Same thing for Korean auto's such as the Kia line, back in the late 90's to early 200? they were considered with good reason to be cheap and poorly built, today their quality is starting to rival that off both Japanese and European makers, the North American Big 3 as still stuck in the 60's.
I highly doubt it. They have made no improvements whatsoever. They seem content on selling cr@p made from their exploited citizens.ceemes wrote: Given time and I doubt it will take long, Chinese builders will crack the quality issues and no doubt will start exporting some quality products. Could be interesting.
China cannot even steal technologies correctly. Japan launched their first bullet train back in the 1960s and to this date has never had a single accident. China recently launched the bullet train with technologies they carbon copied from the Japanese; and shortly thereafter had their first major derailment and accident. Many people were killed.
In fact, I think a total collapse of the Chinese economy is imminent. To me China is the quintessential smoke and mirror show. It's one thing for Obama to keep printing money, totally another for a country like China. What does China have that backs up all this other than their 1.3 billion exploited citizens?
Are you kidding me??? I don't know about you but I will happily live in the US, Canada, England, or Japan before I will ever live in a country like China. Even the Chinese want nothing to do with that country. They immigrate to other countries in Asia, Europe, Australia, The Americas, and even Africa in record numbers. Nobody wants anything to do with that country. Ask anybody in Hong Kong, Taiwan, or Tibet.ceemes wrote: As for living in a so-called "free capitalist society", it hasn't been working all that great for many of us has it? Europe is in the middle of financial crisis, the US economy is still stalled with the official unemployment rate siting at 9.1%. Sometime I can't help but wonder if the Chinese haven't gotten it right with their odd mixture of Marxism and Capitalism.
Yeah the Chinese really got it right.
