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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:34 pm
by CentralOzzy
The P-38 is my Fave Warbird!

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:49 pm
by jmillheiser
I was thinking of the P39 with the alison V8.
Another strange lil warbird. armed to the teeth but completely gutless in the engine room.
the first P51s were notoriously gutless with the alison engines and relegated to dive bomber duty. then the british started modifying their 51s with spitfire engines which brought up the performance dramatically. Then North American started putting the merlin in from the factory with the D model.
IIRC the P51d was the 3rd fastest prop driven fighter in the war. The soviet MiG-3 and a Japanese Kawasaki fighter that I cant remember the model of were a bit faster. Even these were still 100mph slower than the Me-262 jet fighter used by the germans late in the war.
Having heard a P51d in person I can definately say it is a VERY distinctive sounding engine that just plain sounds powerful.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:49 pm
by paul246
This is my personal favourite.
The deHavilland
Mosquito fighter/bomber/recon/night fighter.
Twin Merlins gave it a top speed of 416mph, faster than the Spitfire until the MK14 and slightly faster than the P-38. It was so fast that it suffered the lowest percent of losses during WW2. The Germans didn't have a night fighter fast enough to intercept it.
It had tremendous range and could carry an impressive load of bombs and armament.
It was rated as the most cost effective fighter of the war to boot, due to its mainly wooden construction. It's monocoque construction made it more battle worthy plus it was easy to patch back up.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:28 pm
by CentralOzzy
Yeah, the Mozzie was nice:

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:34 am
by flynrider
jmillheiser wrote:I was thinking of the P39 with the alison V8.
Another strange lil warbird. armed to the teeth but completely gutless in the engine room.
the first P51s were notoriously gutless with the alison engines and relegated to dive bomber duty. then the british started modifying their 51s with spitfire engines which brought up the performance dramatically. Then North American started putting the merlin in from the factory with the D model.
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Sorry, but there was no Allison V-8 produced for WWII warbirds. The Allison V-1710 (V-12 liquid cooled) was the only U.S. made, liquid cooled engine used in WWII planes (apart from the Packard-built RR Merlin). The V-1710 was the original engine in the P-51, P-38, P-39 and P-40. As I said, it was only gutless at high altitude, due to lack of a supercharger (introduced on RR engines of the era). Later models with superchargers were right up there with RR power in the thin air. For low altitude planes like the P-39, used heavily in ground support roles by the USSR, the original non-supercharged version was the perfect engine.
The Packard-Merlin P-51s began with the 'B' model.
Sorry, but when you get me started on airplanes , it's difficult to turn me off. The excess aviation trivia that accumulates in my head, comes spewing out occasionally.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:20 am
by Dichotomous
I like the scream and roar together that eminates from an F-16. Super whine from the front, NO mistaking the power from behind. With full afterburners taking off it is one of those things that makes you shudder to think of all that power.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:05 am
by Papa Bear
Ya the big open exhaust v12's an the sheer noise and feeling of a large jet engine are all good,,, but there's no sound like round!!
As far as bikes go, I like them all, except maybe those high pitched finger nails down the black board two stroke dirt bikes!
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:51 am
by scan
CentralOzzy wrote:The P-38 is my Fave Warbird!

I'm with Ozzy on this one. What a cool airplane.
Next on my list is the A10 Warthog, but you need to be talking jets then, so different conversation.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:01 am
by Dichotomous
any plane, jet or not, that has a gun so powerfull it has as much thrust as the engines(such as the A10).... thats pretty nice. if they had longer than a 10 second burst I'm pretty sure they could stall the plane out of the sky just with the fire button. They used to test those vulcan guns at a range a few miles from my childhood home, the sound is very scarey when you are 5 or 6, sounds like a dragon or some ungodly large beast bellowing AAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOrrrrrrrrrroooooooouuuuggggghhhhhh
though I dont think I'd like the sound of my bike like that, echoing off the hills for 5 miles or more each way is great if you wanna scre enemies, but I might get pulled over for noise violation, or suspected Weapons of Medium Destruction use....
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:47 pm
by BRUMBEAR
Try an M88 tank retriever you want good vibrations those things will rattle your teeth loose