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Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:53 am**

I didn't vote, but here's some food for thought. I put 10,000 miles on my old bike, then modified the seat and handlebar position radically. The new parts also shaved a total of about 15 pounds off the bike, and lowered the cg by putting my body weight almost 3 inches lower. With no power mods at all, I feel like I'm on a totally different bike, and have yet to get used to it...yes I can do everything faster than before, even without being used to it, but there is clearly more unlocked potential I will have to practice with to be able to use it. Food for thought.

Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:39 pm**

Dirtytoes wrote: dude, why are you getting mad?! i said i was gonna wait AT LEAST 6 months, and that's if i'm ready by then.......you said you've read my recent posts..........if you had read them carefully you would know that i said i was gonna wait on the wheelies because i don't have enough experience.

i don't mean to be rude but if you're going to make dumb comments before you know all the facts, your opinion is not needed.

I called it as I saw it without getting personal. I think the only dumb stuff in this thread is a newb who has been riding for less than a month, wads his 49bhp machine, then wants to know if a 120bhp machine is good for him. The only facts that I see as important is that you absolutely dont belong on anything bigger than a ninja 500 and even that might be pushing it.

As I said more constructively in a follow-up post- you need to re-evaluate your attitude towards riding.

Edit- Let me lay it down straight for you. I live in LA too- it takes experience and some skill to ride around here safely. You are still a danger to yourself and others, like I said. All of us start like that to some degree, but what sets good riders apart is the attitude they take towards riding and learning. I see people with bikes they cant handle around here all the time. They are often laying on the ground, maimed or dead, laying next to a wadded up former supersport. Im no expert rider, far from it. Luckily I had someone to smack my ego down and keep my expectations grounded. You need to check your ego at the door and get lots of seat time in on a bike you can handle, plain and simple... period.

Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:52 pm**

swatter555 wrote:
Dirtytoes wrote: dude, why are you getting mad?! i said i was gonna wait AT LEAST 6 months, and that's if i'm ready by then.......you said you've read my recent posts..........if you had read them carefully you would know that i said i was gonna wait on the wheelies because i don't have enough experience.

i don't mean to be rude but if you're going to make dumb comments before you know all the facts, your opinion is not needed.
The only facts that I see as important is that you absolutely dont belong on anything bigger than a ninja 500 and even that might be pushing it.

that's all you needed to say

Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:56 pm**

Sevulturus wrote:Mmmkay, so it's fairly obvious that you're going to keep asking until someone tells you to get the bike that you "actually want."

thats not at all what i was looking for,i'm just trying to get different opinions.........honest to god, if 3 people right now posted "ya, you're totally ready", i still wouldn't run out and get the gixxer. because i now i know for a fact that it will be too much for me.

and like you guys said, "I" will know when i'm ready. :motorcycle:

P.S. thx for the link

Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:05 pm**

Dirtytoes wrote:
GeoffXR200R wrote:
Dirtytoes wrote: that's exactly the kind of comment i was looking for.......for example:
1. how long i should wait.
2. if i should take things slower
3. getting a 600 before the 750
...etc
1. When you can slide a knee on the ground around a corner at your bikes absolute limit. Or maybe when you can lean yourself off the bike in a left hand turn and then procede to do it for a shapr right hand turn. Ever scrape peg on a sport bike? My friend dan could on his 929 if his foot wasn't so friggan big. His chicken strips on the rear tire are non-existant.
2. The more experiance you have putting effort into riding the EX500 the easier it'll be to step up to the super sports. sure, you could take some corners with a GSXR600 without any problems, but what about on a EX500? How much do you REALLY have to lean that bike over to get aorund safely. And like i mentioned before, can you lean OFF the seat, so your right "O Ring" cheek is on the very far left edge of the seat?
3. the power differance between a 2000 GSXR600 and a 750 is about 35 hp. The GSXR600 actually weighs about 20 lbs MORE than the 750 and has 35 less hp(according to bikez.com; this is for a 2000). Can you see what I'm getting at with that?

I know when you think "2 more seasons before i get the 600 cc sport bike" may seem like a lot, but you'll be better for it. But hey, if you get a lot of miles on your bike per season, you could be ready sooner. Who knows, by june of next year you could be dragging knee and really be pushing the EX to it's limits.
the speed gauge on the bike shows 140 mph/220km........but i've heard that it can go past that.

planning on taking it to the track next weekend.....i heard it costs $105 for the entire day......good way to see my bike's full potential.

GeoffXR200R wrote: 3. the power differance between a 2000 GSXR600 and a 750 is about 35 hp. The GSXR600 actually weighs about 20 lbs MORE than the 750 and has 35 less hp(according to bikez.com; this is for a 2000).

GeoffXR200R wrote:Can you see what I'm getting at with that?
this might sound kind of dumb, but i really don't see your point.....are you trying to say that the faster the bike the lighter it will be?

I would just like to say that if you don't know how having a bike that is 35hp more and 20lbs. less than what you are currently riding you def. should not move up. Imagine the trouble you'd have on a bike like that if you still have a couple issues on the ex500. And another piece of advice, nobody is attacking you, they just don't want to see somebody get hurt because they want a "cooler" bike or want to "impress" their friends. Trying to impress your friends or get the "ladies" is a terrible reason to own a motorcycle.

Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:57 pm**

I said YA because I am a great beleiver in people. There is a price to pay for any decision. In this case if you really want to move up you have to dedicate your self to learning on what you have now. Nothing wrong with dreaming, that has to be tempered with reality though. One of the things you are going to have to learn is not to influenced by what people say but rather to base your decision on the collective info that you recieved. You asked for opinions and then got the huff when you got one you did not like. The main point I am trying to make is that riding well is about aquiring the skills to do it, not what size bike you do it on. Childern do not make good motorcyclists, neither do adults with childish attitudes.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:34 am**

Experience is the one thing that we get just after we desperately needed it.

Get as much seat time as you can in as many different situations as you can, it all pays off when you are ready to move up to a more aggressive bike.

I believe in 6 months you will still be riding at your limits rather than the Ninja's.

I've clocked up a good 14k milage this last year and I still have days where I am not riding to my bikes potential, but its real close now. I'll not be getting the 650 Comet, 620 Monster Dark or 600 Bandit any time soon - but thats becoming an issue about my funding not my ability.

Its better to be cool than it is to just look cool.

Enjoy your ride man - bikes are kind of like girlf's, you'll not enjoy you're ride as much as you should if you are busy trusting another one all the time!

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:14 am**

thx everyone, i appreciate ALL the comments and i really do mean that.

and boy am i glad i started this thread.

gquinns wrote: Trying to impress your friends or get the "ladies" is a terrible reason to own a motorcycle.

i'll be honest,
that's the reason i got a bike in the first place.....and you can call me an idiot if you want, because, well, like you said it's a terrible reason to own a motorcycle........however, believe it or not, i now ride for the love of it, it's just an amazing feeling just cruisin around on your motorcycle..........and i didn't know that until i bought a bike and got on it......and i'm not gonna lie, sure, i like showing off with my bike in front of the "ladies" once it ahile but thats no longer the REASON i own a bike.......i bought the bike for myself, and not for anyone else

P.S. track date is set, i'm goin there on Dec.22

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:31 pm**

Dirtytoes wrote:P.S. track date is set, i'm goin there on Dec.22

what about snow?

lucky californian

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:19 pm**

GeoffXR200R wrote: lucky californian

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