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Sevulturus wrote:I think people in North America in general as too obsessed with the "bigger is better," idealogy. Buying a bike based solely on stats is a mistake. Any 600 that is comfortable for him to sit on is the best one for him.

We like to bench race, even more so in the USA. I mean, one of the most popular sports here involves a bunch of cars driving around in circles, so most of us don't really know much more about skillful driving. That's why we use the hard numbers to say "Not only does my car/bike/truck have more HP than yours, but it handles better too" instead of actually putting it to the test. We like our cars BIG. We like our cars fast. But we don't want to need skill to drive them.

For instance, on the highway, there was no way my little I4 nissan altima could touch my friends Thunderbird, even if it "only had a small block" (and a SMALL smallblock at that, just a 289). BUT get us on the back roads, and i could always beat him to our destination when we took seperate vehicles. He was a decent driver too, just didn't practice as much as i was fond of doing.

That SV will smoke any super-sport if it's ridden by Rossi, and the rest are your average rider.

That being said, if you go 600cc super bike, try an R6, they've very light and comfortable IMO. Though i still like the idea of that Triumph 675. Cause simply put, twins can't make the HP of I4's CC for CC. That's why Ducati has the 749 that still makes similar power to a 600 despite it's greater CC.

Sevulturus wrote:That's funny, because I was under the impression you don't need a supersport to have fun. The SV650S is a great bike, and will be more comfortable for both everyday, and ttack riding. The month before last there was a great article in Canadian Biker about using the SV as a track bike. And he did really well with only minor mods: new exhaust, and better tires. Plus frame sliders etc etc.

I think people in North America in general as too obsessed with the "bigger is better," idealogy. Buying a bike based solely on stats is a mistake. Any 600 that is comfortable for him to sit on is the best one for him.

I dont want this to seem confrontational, but I was speaking from experience of having ridden both bikes. The SV is a great bike for the price and what it is meant for. I am not downing the SV in anyway. Like I said I own one and am very happy with it. At the same time, there isnt anything wrong with saying the CBR600RR is a much better bike. It just is. Its more expensive also.

I think the original poster was more concerned about looks and we have similiar tastes. In the end I recommended the F4i.

GeoffXR200R wrote:

Sevulturus wrote: That being said, if you go 600cc super bike, try an R6, they've very light and comfortable IMO. Though i still like the idea of that Triumph 675. Cause simply put, twins can't make the HP of I4's CC for CC. That's why Ducati has the 749 that still makes similar power to a 600 despite it's greater CC.

Just a quick spec of each bike to add fuel to the debate:

The 650 Suzy V-Twin has 71HP & 64Nm torque, but
The CBR600F has 108HP and 63Nm torque
The CBR-RR has 115HP and 66Nm, on the other hand.
The Ducati 749 has 108 horses but an awesome 81Nm...

The Ducati must really launch right from the low revs.

I really like the idea of the triumph, and it's british too which gives it extra credit!

You couldnt go wrong with any of those choices. I think the only thing you have left to do is go sit on each one.

I think Ducati bikes are real sexy, but I cant get past the horror stories. I would also bet that the 675s are going to fly off the showroom floors.

loco wrote:

GeoffXR200R wrote:

Sevulturus wrote: That being said, if you go 600cc super bike, try an R6, they've very light and comfortable IMO. Though i still like the idea of that Triumph 675. Cause simply put, twins can't make the HP of I4's CC for CC. That's why Ducati has the 749 that still makes similar power to a 600 despite it's greater CC.

Just a quick spec of each bike to add fuel to the debate:

The 650 Suzy V-Twin has 71HP & 64Nm torque, but
The CBR600F has 108HP and 63Nm torque
The CBR-RR has 115HP and 66Nm, on the other hand.
The Ducati 749 has 108 horses but an awesome 81Nm...

The Ducati must really launch right from the low revs.

I really like the idea of the triumph, and it's british too which gives it extra credit!

I didn't say that.