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Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:55 pm
by dr_bar
BuzZz wrote:Oh, Hud.... :roll:
:lol:

Imagination, romance or organics have nothing to do with measurement systems, other than to create confusion and decrease accuracy.

You don't want the guy who designed your engine to have 0.000043 cubits ring gap, or rod bolts torqued to 16 hogsheads.... and you really don't want the guy at the shop to have to work on your engine with specs like that to decipher.

Standardized measurement is critical to keeping our machines, buildings cities.... hell everything... running correctly and safely.

If you want to play fast and loose with standardization, look at what texting and punks on the net have done to language. U srsly think this iz ane wai 2 get a complex idea across? Mabee if U want 2 tell 10 000 of ur friends wat U had 4 lunch, or wen U take a craap, but no gud if U need 2 explain specs or procedures. :wink:

(/rant)


You seem to have a bit of experience with that texting idiom... :lol:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:07 pm
by Wrider
Hud you are one skinny little man you know that? I weigh in at 22.1 stone apparently. Those have got to be some heavy stones! I'm with buzzz on the measurements though. I'm all for the metric system for universality and logic behind it!
And just so you know bud, I literally started twitching when I was reading your rant. I have to deal with it enough from my peers, I don't need it from you too! :lol:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:43 pm
by BuzZz
dr_bar wrote: You seem to have a bit of experience with that texting idiom... :lol:
To my eternal shame and humiliation, I have to admit you are right. :oops:

Although I have never sent a text in my life (and I Shall Not twine!) I have picked up enough of it from net surfing (F**k YouTube) and one buddy who tried as hard as he could to get me into text messaging (and failed miserably) to have an embarrassingly familiarity with it.

It's not like that time I was 10 and came home early to find Mom hanging from a trapeze in the kitchen and Dad dressed like a reverse merman. I can't soak my eyes in bleach for 45 minutes and let the pain diminish the memory to the point where I only see it when looking through a high powered scope...... :pinch:

I can't figure out what to wash, cut off, or burn to make this go away. Any suggestions would be most welcome. :mrgreen:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:20 pm
by ceemes
BuzZz wrote:Oh, Hud.... :roll:
:lol:

Imagination, romance or organics have nothing to do with measurement systems, other than to create confusion and decrease accuracy.

You don't want the guy who designed your engine to have 0.000043 cubits ring gap, or rod bolts torqued to 16 hogsheads.... and you really don't want the guy at the shop to have to work on your engine with specs like that to decipher.

Standardized measurement is critical to keeping our machines, buildings cities.... hell everything... running correctly and safely.

If you want to play fast and loose with standardization, look at what texting and punks on the net have done to language. U srsly think this iz ane wai 2 get a complex idea across? Mabee if U want 2 tell 10 000 of ur friends wat U had 4 lunch, or wen U take a craap, but no gud if U need 2 explain specs or procedures. :wink:

(/rant)
:roll2: :roll2: :roll2: :roll2:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:01 am
by csspostal
Called cable company today to see why my phone and Internet are down. Was told my phone number doesn't exist. I said that's interesting you just sent me a bill can you look it up with the account number or my email address. was told no only by the phone number gave phone number again sorry account doesn't exist :angry: So I had to borrow my moms connection to fill out an online form for service. I'll be contacted by phone or email in 48 hours. :devil: They'll have to fix it before they can do that. ;)

So I went for a ride in the middle of day with nothing to do found a nice new little greasy spoon with some killer food called Goody's.

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I just had the single version of that as I was scared I'd fall asleep half way home on Mis Doce.

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:44 am
by sv-wolf
BuzZz wrote:Oh, Hud.... :roll:
:lol:

Imagination, romance or organics have nothing to do with measurement systems, other than to create confusion and decrease accuracy.



You don't want the guy who designed your engine to have 0.000043 cubits ring gap, or rod bolts torqued to 16 hogsheads.... and you really don't want the guy at the shop to have to work on your engine with specs like that to decipher.

Why not? I can still calculate just as fast and efficiently in the system I was brought up in than I can metric.

Standardized measurement is critical to keeping our machines, buildings cities.... hell everything... running correctly and safely.

If you want to play fast and loose with standardization, look at what texting and punks on the net have done to language. U srsly think this iz ane wai 2 get a complex idea across? Mabee if U want 2 tell 10 000 of ur friends wat U had 4 lunch, or wen U take a craap, but no gud if U need 2 explain specs or procedures. :wink:

(/rant)

LOL. OK Buzz, you are not the only one that can rant around here. :shooting:

Deep breath, and...

Nah it's a myth.

Listen, as I was growing up enginering weight was measured in poundals. In a world where the acceleration due to gravity was 32 feet/second/second , there were 32 poundals to one pound mass. There was horsepower (and still is) Wuh'hey! There were 1760 yards or 8 furlongs to the mile and 10 chains to the furlong (then there were 22 yards to the chain). There were 16 ounces to the pound, 14 pounds to the stone, 112 pounds to the hundredweight and 20 hundredweights to the ton. And then there were things called rods, poles or perches.

Despite all this, engineers only started making mistakes when we went metric and they had to start converting between the two systems. Nowadays we have 'puters and calculators. What's the big deal? I can still calculate just as effectively in the old system as I can in metric.

Do you really want to measure the power of a bike in Watts?

Do you really?

Bah! :P

A lot of the old number system was built on divisions of 12 (12 inches to the foot, 12 pence to the shilling) and not 10. That is so much more sensible (12 has so many more factors than 10). What went wrong was not that our measurement systems had divisions of 12, but that we had a base-10 number system to express it in. What we should have done was covert to a base-12 number system. Now that would have been super-slick. Ten is an extremely boring and inconvenient number to base a number system on from all points of view apart from the fact that we have ten fingers to count on. But how useful is that when measuring engineering tolerances?

Let's sing the praises of the eccentric and unreasonable. I'm all for it.

BTW, I thought that is exactly what metrication did - play fast and loose with a perfectly good and perfectly standardised system. Since metrication we have had several whole generations of confused shoppers and motorists.

Rant over

BTW I defy you to take any of this seriously! :mrgreen:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:53 am
by BuzZz
An excellent argument, Hud.

However, I am fairly sure you exposed the flaw in your own reasoning.

Somehow.

Not positive exactly how yet, but once I learn how to count past 10, I am sure it will become clear. And I bet poundals are at the root of it.

:laughing:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:07 am
by sv-wolf
BuzZz wrote:An excellent argument, Hud.

However, I am fairly sure you exposed the flaw in your own reasoning.

Somehow.
I wouldn't know. I live dangerously, Buzz. 8) :lol:
BuzZz wrote:Not positive exactly how yet, but once I learn how to count past 10, I am sure it will become clear. And I bet poundals are at the root of it.

:laughing:
LOL. :lol:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:16 am
by sv-wolf
Wrider wrote:Hud you are one skinny little man you know that?
Sure do! Skinny, yes, but steady on with the 'little.' I'm 6 foot. That kinda makes the skinny even skinnier, yeah! I come from a long line of jockeys.
Wrider wrote:I weigh in at 22.1 stone apparently. Those have got to be some heavy stones!
Good grief! We are obviously talking Yankee stones here then! :laughing:
Wrider wrote:I'm with buzzz on the measurements though. I'm all for the metric system for universality and logic behind it!
And just so you know bud, I literally started twitching when I was reading your rant. I have to deal with it enough from my peers, I don't need it from you too! :lol:
And sensitive with it. Wow! :D

Listen, we need to get together and come up with some kind of Transatlantic conversion table, so you can spot when a Brit is taking the "pee"! :laughing:

Re: What did you do today...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:26 am
by BuzZz
sv-wolf wrote: Listen, we need to get together and come up with some kind of Transatlantic conversion table, so you can spot when a Brit is taking the "pee"! :laughing:

Based on poundals..... :mrgreen: