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#31 Post by TechTMW » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:19 am

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I've driven many cars with 15 second 0-60 times on the interstate. Never had a problem merging, never had a problem keeping up. Even able to pass when needed. OFTEN had to slow down for people driving faster cars more slowly.
I once owned a 0 - 60 in 15 seconds 40hp 1967 Diesel Mercedes (200d) looked like this
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Oh yeah it had an automatic transmission too. :laughing:

I know exactly what you are talking about !! And that weighed what ... 4 times as much as a 150cc ride???
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#32 Post by skoebl » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:39 am

I had an '90 Ford Escort station wagon that I learned how to push limits on. It had like 70hp and weighed about 3000lbs. Never had more fun in any other car (owned a few "sports cars" as well).

So I second...or third...or whatever that pushing a small vehicle to its limits can be more fun....
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#33 Post by CNF2002 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:01 am

Its not about what bike they choose, its about running their lives how I want them to do it! :laughing:
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#34 Post by Shiv » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:30 am

Kal rides a 125. What is the "right" way to ride a 125 on the freeway? Once you chew on that for a couple seconds, you'll realize why 125cc bikes are illegal on the interstates.
In that instance you would need a bigger bike for the freeways. A 125 obviously won't cut it over here so you would need at least a 250cc.


So what's your point? I never said everyone should be riding on a 125cc. Hell even a 250cc. I just said that people don't need a 1000cc sportsbike. They just want one.
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#35 Post by ZooTech » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:06 am

Shiv wrote:I just said that people don't need a 1000cc sportsbike. They just want one.
Okay, first off...what's wrong with that?

Secondly, why throw around insults about liter bike owners saying the only reason they ride one is because they don't know how to push a 500 to its limits? Last time I checked, riding anything to its limits was an invitation to disaster and a recipe for frequent rebuilds. From this side of the aisle, this "big bike vs. little bike" argument comes across as class envy most of the time. If you're happy with your bike's power, then go somewhere and be happy with it. But don't tell me that the only reason my '84 NightHawk 700SC struggled to maintain 75mph in a headwind was because I didn't know how to ride it or push it to its limits. Every bike has its limitations and cannot do what every other bike can do if only it's "ridden hard enough".
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#36 Post by Sev » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:11 am

Using the same reasoning the following arguments should not be made:

"you're going to get bored."

"you'll need more power to have fun."
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#37 Post by Unnamed » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:17 am

Actually Zootech all the water in the world could sink a ship without getting inside. If the ship was a submarine and went too deep the pressure could crush it and make it sink.

So maybe you're saying "but the water has to get inside before it sinks!"

But, even if the hull is crushed perfectly evenly, all the water in the world would easily make it so small that the air remaining inside couldn't possibly make it float, and thus it would sink.

Thus, 1000cc sportbikes are too much for beginners.
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#38 Post by High_Side » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:44 am

I'll agree that the bike you choose needs to be suited to what you are planning on using it for. Putting a 225lb rider on a 250cc bike is rediculous and dangerous on the highway, yet there are those that will still preach it, never having ridden a small bike on the highway. Thats why we have discussions like this. People like to tell other how to do things and the rest of us like to point out when they are wrong :laughing:
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#39 Post by camthepyro » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:49 am

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Actually Zootech all the water in the world could sink a ship without getting inside. If the ship was a submarine and went too deep the pressure could crush it and make it sink.

So maybe you're saying "but the water has to get inside before it sinks!"

But, even if the hull is crushed perfectly evenly, all the water in the world would easily make it so small that the air remaining inside couldn't possibly make it float, and thus it would sink.

Thus, 1000cc sportbikes are too much for beginners.
I'm sorry, but that example has pretty much no relevency to this topic...
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#40 Post by JCS » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:03 pm

I have a big bike. I like it.

I have a mid-sized bike. I like it.

I have 2 smaller bikes. I like them, too.

'Nuff said.

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