Where is Vector 18, rumor has it he's been in a crash

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vector18 · #31 Post by **vector18** » Sun May 28, 2006 3:49 am

I'm not upset that my riding style may have actually put me in harms way. I'm upset from a couple of the responses that a fellow rider might have been either seriously injured or killed and they basically were saying that I deserved it from my riding style. I know in this site that most of you are mellow riders and probably are the ones that give me the finger when I blow past them on the hwy, but does anyone ever deserve to get seriously injured?

Mustang wrote:

Are you going to get upset now, when this same riding style may have actually put you in harms way?

#32 Post by **zarakand** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:08 am

vector18 wrote:I'm not upset that my riding style may have actually put me in harms way. I'm upset from a couple of the responses that a fellow rider might have been either seriously injured or killed and they basically were saying that I deserved it from my riding style. I know in this site that most of you are mellow riders and probably are the ones that give me the finger when I blow past them on the hwy, but does anyone ever deserve to get seriously injured?

Mustang wrote:

Are you going to get upset now, when this same riding style may have actually put you in harms way?

I think you'll notice that the tone changed after we were aware you were safe. Once the concern for your safety had passed, things really went back to normal.

And you're right no one deserves to be seriously hurt, but everyone needs to be aware that all actions have consequences.

On a side note, what speed was your redline at? I'm guessing it was way above 90mph?

vector18 · #33 Post by **vector18** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:42 am

zarakand, you are right, the tone did change once it was discovered I was ok. The only page I appreciate was the 1st one. I'm really getting upset for no reason because I should have expected some negative comments since I am an aggressive rider. I just like to mention that although I am an aggresive rider, I have great control of the bike and I know where and when to be aggresive. As to your last question, redline in 5th gear for my bike is anywhere between 135-140mph.

#34 Post by **zarakand** » Sun May 28, 2006 6:15 am

The fear isn't your control of the bike, but the fact that as an aggressive rider cagers are even less sure how to respond around you. For example, if you've been reading Silveradogirl's blog a few days ago she witnessed an accident where a driver did not anticipate an aggressive rider's moves leading to a near fatal (not sure if the guy made it or not) collision.

Pragmatically, this irks other bikers since it gives us a bad name, raises our insurance rates, and generally makes people think we're out of control aholes. On a personal level, it's always more about missing the person and mouring their loss. Unfortunately even though we might have dozens of posts under our belt, the relationship most of us have to each other is a pragmatic one. Don't feel too bad.

vector18 · #35 Post by **vector18** » Sun May 28, 2006 11:56 am

I don't.

ZooTech · #36 Post by **ZooTech** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:17 pm

vector18 wrote:I don't.

Had you crashed and died due to locking the rear tire up after a 10-20 minute redline race with a Camaro, would you expect sympathy from this board? I'm not expecting sympathy or well-wishes if I ever go down without a helmet and coat and get hurt. Why you expect people to feel bad for your loss which is a result of assinine actions and disregard for public safety is beyond me, regardless of how "in control" you may believe you are.

vector18 · #37 Post by **vector18** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:38 pm

V4underme · #38 Post by **V4underme** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:07 am

Glad you are alive, even more glad you didn't hurt or kill anyone else, but that's where it ends.

Why should anyone have sympathy for anyone else who knowingly and willingly rides so very dangerously and recklessly? You see it as "I like to ride fast". What that means on the road is "one day I'm going to kill myself or someone else". There's a huge difference, think about it. What happens if that engine locks up while you are weaving around traffic and you slam into a car with kids in it? No matter how you try, you can not justify what you do when it is so damn careless.

Stop thinking only of yourself. Sorry to sound harsh, but I've known people that have been hit by bikes who's owners "just liked to ride fast". Thankfully no fatalities.

C'mon man, if you like speed so much (I understand that feeling) get a track bike and go fast there, that's what they are for. I'd much rather talk about that with you than hear about your stories of how fast you were going on a public road.

vector18 · #39 Post by **vector18** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:19 am

Great!

Britjoe · #40 Post by **Britjoe** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:36 am

Ive been veiwing this thread and decided to comment, everyone thinks there bike is awesome and fantasticly fast, but time to grow up mate, one thing, the bike you have wasnt made to do what your doing with it, hence the malfunction, and you set your self up for ridicule whenyou state how, your a aggressive rider, and skilled, how long have you been riding?, you never stop learning, ive been riding twenty years, and I wouldnt claim to be as skilled as you seem to think you are, the trick I believe in surviving on a motorcycle is driving defensive, not offensive as you seem to think, it was only a mater of time, and i know your event was gonna happen sooner or later, learn from it, and Im glad your OK.