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I would like to compare the above stats with the stats on the number of bikes at each size registered. Apples to Apples.

VTX1300C wrote:Me too

I would like to compare the above stats with the stats on the number of bikes at each size registered. Apples to Apples.

Yeah, that, and I want to be able to tell my dad "look, if I take the course, ride as carefully and intelligently as I drive, have a license, don't ride drunk, wear my protective gear, and ride on a bike I can handle, then these stats show that I won't die the instant I take my new bike on the road."

I think the Vmax is a good begginer bike.

while i love my 250 and highly recomend it as a starter bike, i think 500's are okay if thats a better fit. i also know many people who started on 600's and are fine, but becasue this is the internet and i dont know you- i will use the most conservative recomendation i can and hope that it goes well for you. after riding the 250 for a while i am glad i started on this because it has saved my butt many times. but i also think you could easliy kill yourself on it as well. its a lot faster than most cars and can get you in trouble a lot quicker than most car.

i support geting a 250 as a first bike, but that doesnt mean its the end-all be-all of bikes. it was my decision, i think a smart one, and im happy.

i will probably be getting a bigger bike next year but i will never regret starting on the 250, and im sure i'll be much better on a bigger bike with my background on the smaller one.

quintisv wrote:I think the Vmax is a good begginer bike.

hmmm humor...

You know what it really amounts to? If there was a provable difference in safety then new riders wouldn't be allowed to start off on bigger bikes. Legislators respond to numbers first... if the numbers were there, the laws would follow.

New riders are allowed to start on anything ergo there must not be a significant safety difference.

(People in Europe/UK/AU/etc pls ignore this post....)

BigChickenStrips wrote:while i love my 250 and highly recomend it as a starter bike, i think 500's are okay if thats a better fit. i also know many people who started on 600's and are fine, but becasue this is the internet and i dont know you- i will use the most conservative recomendation i can and hope that it goes well for you. after riding the 250 for a while i am glad i started on this because it has saved my butt many times. but i also think you could easliy kill yourself on it as well. its a lot faster than most cars and can get you in trouble a lot quicker than most car.

i support geting a 250 as a first bike, but that doesnt mean its the end-all be-all of bikes. it was my decision, i think a smart one, and im happy.

i will probably be getting a bigger bike next year but i will never regret starting on the 250, and im sure i'll be much better on a bigger bike with my background on the smaller one.

+1 Good post - This is the way to share one's opinion without preaching or cramming it down the reader's throat.

Much better way to get your point across than the blanket "All beginners need to ride smaller bikes" that we read so much of.

Thanks

VTX1300C wrote: +1 Good post - This is the way to share one's opinion without preaching or cramming it down the reader's throat.

Much better way to get your point across than the blanket "All beginners need to ride smaller bikes" that we read so much of.

Thanks

+1

VTX1300C wrote:Much better way to get your point across than the blanket "All beginners need to ride smaller bikes" that we read so much of.

I used to talk about my CeeGee but got laughed at because its a 125cc... She was a fantastic bike, forgiving to ride and work on. I have come to accept that America may never understand the beauty that is wrapped up inside a 125cc's frame and so tend to recomend 250-500cc as the best learning zone.

dieziege wrote:You know what it really amounts to? If there was a provable difference in safety then new riders wouldn't be allowed to start off on bigger bikes. Legislators respond to numbers first... if the numbers were there, the laws would follow.

New riders are allowed to start on anything ergo there must not be a significant safety difference.

(People in Europe/UK/AU/etc pls ignore this post....)

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