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Sevulturus wrote: Verm, I don't think you'll ever have to worry about how you'll react to dragging a knee.

cool!

VermilionX wrote:

Sevulturus wrote: Verm, I don't think you'll ever have to worry about how you'll react to dragging a knee.

cool!

geez-us.

V, I'll bet you a $1000 dollars right now that your stock suspension is not set-up anything near to optimum, or that you could tell the difference if it was. Money spent on upgraded suspension is money wasted at this piont in your career. But you can't honestly hang aftermarket suspension company stickers on your forks if they are stock, can you? And that's what you really want.

I'll double that Grand on your ability to use your stock brakes to thier potential. You can't. Don't be upset, 99.9999% of all the other riders you see out there and in ads and whose words you seem to reguard as Divine and Holy can't either. More wasted money. Nice and shiny though......

And I'll triple it over tires. Confidence? You want confidence, learn how to use the already awesome street rubber you have. Learn the limits it has, how to ride well enought to reach them, and how to compensate and correct when you do surpass them. Race tires are not going to do you a dam bit of good if you can't use all of your street rubber.

That SV... remember the bike this thread was about before you started yippin'???.... is more bike than you can use right now. Throwing wads of cash at your bike is only egocentric masturbation on your part. Put that thing back in your pants, no one here wants to see it.

Goodbye.

BuzZz wrote:V, I'll bet you a $1000 dollars right now that your stock suspension is not set-up anything near to optimum, or that you could tell the difference if it was. Money spent on upgraded suspension is money wasted at this piont in your career. But you can't honestly hang aftermarket suspension company stickers on your forks if they are stock, can you? And that's what you really want.

I'll double that Grand on your ability to use your stock brakes to thier potential. You can't. Don't be upset, 99.9999% of all the other riders you see out there and in ads and whose words you seem to reguard as Divine and Holy can't either. More wasted money. Nice and shiny though......

And I'll triple it over tires. Confidence? You want confidence, learn how to use the already awesome street rubber you have. Learn the limits it has, how to ride well enought to reach them, and how to compensate and correct when you do surpass them. Race tires are not going to do you a dam bit of good if you can't use all of your street rubber.

Goodbye.

nope, stickers won't cut it, i want the real thing.

anyway... i was actually reading this last night but only got to the intro bec i got a call for a night ride.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0006_susp/

let me know what you think of it and could you give me tips to on adjusting my suspension. i know it has something to do w/ my weight and riding style. anyway... im only 130lbs and i wanna adjust the suspension so that the bike will be better at cornering.

when i said i wanted suspension and brake upgrades... i don't have the money for it, so it won't be until way later.

but regarding tires... i can't explore the limits of the street tires bec im gonna be too paranoid about it.

plus, if i do something that would have led to a lowside on street tires but not on race tires... then race tires is money well spent.

BuzZz wrote:V, I'll bet you a $1000 dollars right now that your stock suspension is not set-up anything near to optimum, or that you could tell the difference if it was. Money spent on upgraded suspension is money wasted at this piont in your career. But you can't honestly hang aftermarket suspension company stickers on your forks if they are stock, can you? And that's what you really want.

I'll double that Grand on your ability to use your stock brakes to thier potential. You can't. Don't be upset, 99.9999% of all the other riders you see out there and in ads and whose words you seem to reguard as Divine and Holy can't either. More wasted money. Nice and shiny though......

And I'll triple it over tires. Confidence? You want confidence, learn how to use the already awesome street rubber you have. Learn the limits it has, how to ride well enought to reach them, and how to compensate and correct when you do surpass them. Race tires are not going to do you a dam bit of good if you can't use all of your street rubber.

I'm going to have to agree. Like it or not Verm you're still a new rider. In all honesty if you threw the best suspension/brakes/tires you could buy on your bike you probably wouldn't be any better at all simply because you wouldn't know what having that benefit feels like. I'm in the same boat myself. Learn to use what you've got and then worry about upgrading. And unless you're a hardcore racer all those upgrades are going to be wasted money, money you could spend on bettering your skills instead of making your bike blingy.

BuzZz wrote:That SV... remember the bike this thread was about before you started yippin'???.... is more bike than you can use right now.

Once again, I'm going to agree. Throw any rider who's had some experience on that SV or any bike really and he is going to absolutely dismantle you. My 17 year old friend knows Barber well and rides a 48 horsepower Hawk GT. This past weekend he lapped so many guys on Gixxers who have been riding for years and years simply because he knows what he's doing. He hasn't spent thousands of dollars on new brakes, sport tires, etc. He bought a new rear shock because his old one was falling apart, but that's it (that happens on a 18 year old bike...). Instead he spends most of his free time practicing and most of his free cash on track days and riding courses.

I'd stop worrying about having the best of everything because the only thing sadder than seeing someone on a really nice sportbike getting whipped by someone riding a POS is seeing someone on a nice sportbike with tons of mods on it getting whipped.

Just my

Verm, I'm going to second what Buzz told you in the hope that somehow some way, you will pull your head out of that dark place that it is currently in and give it up already. SAVE YOUR MONEY, and work on your skills. You are suffering from the same disease that many suffer from in that they will pay everything to have the best equipment and that will somehow make all of the difference. I know a guy with a GSX-R1000 suffering from the same disease. Ohlins suspension, clutch upgrades, you name it, this guy has it but he has never even been to the track. He has ridden for two years now but somehow thinks that he has surpased all of the technology that Suzuki can build in to a stock bike. Track days are full of long faces on guys with the best of everything that can't understand how "that kid on the 18 year-old Honda Hawk" just blew their doors off. The insult is added to injury when you have just spent mega $$$$ for the Ohlins suspension that you thought would make the difference......
It's not the bike.
I also would like to say that while others have given you a hard time while you were trying to improve your cornering skills I've sat back in admiration of what you are trying to do. This is the key to being a better rider, not all of the money you can spend on upgrades. Focus on riding better.

yeah, like i said, i just wanna adjust my suspension for now since it's free.

and also, i agree... i think it's not time yet to upgrade my brakes and suspension.

but i still will get race tires. track temps here in CA can reach up to 100+ and street tires can't handle 100+ track temps, as i heard.

Does the track get hotter than the street for some reason? Anyways, if the temperature there is 100+ the asphalt is probably going to be more like 120 or 130 I'd think. Tires are resilient my friend, that'll be alright.

My bud goes through 2-3 track days on one set usually, and they're not "track tires," they're just performance street tires.

VermilionX wrote:but i still will get race tires. track temps here in CA can reach up to 100+ and street tires can't handle 100+ track temps, as i heard.

man, we rehash the same stuff in like all of your ongoing threads. were I one w/ mod powers, they'd just get consolodated into one, and the rest locked :p See my response to the quoted misinformation in whichever thread I just replied to.

One thing to remember Verm, racing tires are VERY soft. They grip the road very well but the tradeoff is that they don't last very long at all. Go with that and you're going to be buying lots and lots of tires...