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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:54 am
by qwerty
Enjoy the attention. Women love a man in uniform. Always give the girls, even the ugly ones, your best Marlon Brando look when you catch them staring. It makes their day. Besides, you never know when Ms. Right will come along. There are some really cute cashiers at the Home Depot near my house. Oh, to be 20 again!
Just remember to smile at the little kids. They are the future of motorcycling.
Don't worry about all the guys dogging you, they're just jealous, but they don't have the gonads to start something with a biker. Just watch out for the guys who love a man in uniform. The only way some of them will take "no" for an answer is if you get rude. I had one guy follow me around for a short while trying to rub up against me and such, so I had to go upside his head with a helmet, but that is really quite rare.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:51 am
by IcyHound
Not only would I wear it I'd wear it feeling sexy.
Around here 80% of riders wear skull caps and nothing else. People notice when you have full gear on.
The other side effect is you may meet other local bikers and make new friends. The responsible ones will gravitate to you because you are in full gear.
Why not get a bag to stuff your stuff into if it bugs you that much? I think your jacket is absoutly lovely.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:29 am
by Apollofrost
Take it from someone who went to school in a black leather trench and HD boots, you can wear anything you want and nobody will care, if you wear it naturally. If you are comfortable with it and with yourself, wear it. Don't make excuses for your gear, don't tell them that you didn't have the money for leather, say that it's your motorcycle jacket and leave it at that. **** what everyone else thinks. After a while you expect and accept the critcisms, but when you reach that point, nobody says anything. Well, nobody worth while.
People stared when I walked by, people pointed, they still do, but for the most part the feedback is positive. I've had people walk up and tell me how much they liked my coat, it used to happen daily, while only once in a while do I get the occasional moron who yells "Neo!" from a passing car.
The other thing is that a lot of people don't see you as well... you. They see something that fits in a category, like skater, jock, prep, emo or whatever and they act accordingly. If you don't fit into any of those groups people are forced to gather more info before they can begin fileing, they ask you questions and you get a chance to show them the real you before they decide how they feel about you.
Just be yourself and be comfortable with who you are. Some peope will cross the street when they see me, others may stare, but I'll still hold the door open for an old lady entering the mall because that's who I am.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:55 pm
by Koss
apollofrost wrote:Take it from someone who went to school in a black leather trench and HD boots, you can wear anything you want and nobody will care, if you wear it naturally. If you are comfortable with it and with yourself, wear it. Don't make excuses for your gear, don't tell them that you didn't have the money for leather, say that it's your motorcycle jacket and leave it at that. **** what everyone else thinks. After a while you expect and accept the critcisms, but when you reach that point, nobody says anything. Well, nobody worth while.
People stared when I walked by, people pointed, they still do, but for the most part the feedback is positive. I've had people walk up and tell me how much they liked my coat, it used to happen daily, while only once in a while do I get the occasional moron who yells "Neo!" from a passing car.
The other thing is that a lot of people don't see you as well... you. They see something that fits in a category, like skater, jock, prep, emo or whatever and they act accordingly. If you don't fit into any of those groups people are forced to gather more info before they can begin fileing, they ask you questions and you get a chance to show them the real you before they decide how they feel about you.
Just be yourself and be comfortable with who you are. Some peope will cross the street when they see me, others may stare, but I'll still hold the door open for an old lady entering the mall because that's who I am.
+1 Ive had the exact same experiences on all accounts. Just be yourself.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:21 pm
by sv-wolf
Koss wrote:apollofrost wrote:Take it from someone who went to school in a black leather trench and HD boots, you can wear anything you want and nobody will care, if you wear it naturally. If you are comfortable with it and with yourself, wear it. Don't make excuses for your gear, don't tell them that you didn't have the money for leather, say that it's your motorcycle jacket and leave it at that. **** what everyone else thinks. After a while you expect and accept the critcisms, but when you reach that point, nobody says anything. Well, nobody worth while.
People stared when I walked by, people pointed, they still do, but for the most part the feedback is positive. I've had people walk up and tell me how much they liked my coat, it used to happen daily, while only once in a while do I get the occasional moron who yells "Neo!" from a passing car.
The other thing is that a lot of people don't see you as well... you. They see something that fits in a category, like skater, jock, prep, emo or whatever and they act accordingly. If you don't fit into any of those groups people are forced to gather more info before they can begin fileing, they ask you questions and you get a chance to show them the real you before they decide how they feel about you.
Just be yourself and be comfortable with who you are. Some peope will cross the street when they see me, others may stare, but I'll still hold the door open for an old lady entering the mall because that's who I am.
+1 Ive had the exact same experiences on all accounts. Just be yourself.
and +1 That's exactly right.
I work away from the office for a lot of the time so when I go in just for an hour or so, I've got into the habit of not even bothering to take of my leathers. It's hardly worth while. I just sit at my desk in my leather trousers and boots and nobody gives me a second look now.
As Apollo says, if you are easy with yourself people are much more likely to be easy with you. If you are tense and self-conscious and apologetic or defensively agressive about the way you look they will be less accepting.
It's like riding a bike, confidence is everything.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:24 pm
by CycleNewb
apollofrost wrote:Take it from someone who went to school in a black leather trench and HD boots, you can wear anything you want and nobody will care, if you wear it naturally. If you are comfortable with it and with yourself, wear it. Don't make excuses for your gear, don't tell them that you didn't have the money for leather, say that it's your motorcycle jacket and leave it at that. **** what everyone else thinks. After a while you expect and accept the critcisms, but when you reach that point, nobody says anything. Well, nobody worth while.
People stared when I walked by, people pointed, they still do, but for the most part the feedback is positive. I've had people walk up and tell me how much they liked my coat, it used to happen daily, while only once in a while do I get the occasional moron who yells "Neo!" from a passing car.
The other thing is that a lot of people don't see you as well... you. They see something that fits in a category, like skater, jock, prep, emo or whatever and they act accordingly. If you don't fit into any of those groups people are forced to gather more info before they can begin fileing, they ask you questions and you get a chance to show them the real you before they decide how they feel about you.
Just be yourself and be comfortable with who you are. Some peope will cross the street when they see me, others may stare, but I'll still hold the door open for an old lady entering the mall because that's who I am.
+1 +1 +1
Well said, and the old ladies still get a kick out of a young person getting a door for them!

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:40 pm
by qwerty
Door Holders of the World, UNITE. Chivalry does not have to die. At least the elders know how to appreciate chivalry. The younger set doesn't know how to take it.
I've only had one twit say, "I don't need any ^$&*%$$ male chauvinist &%&(*^%^ to hold the door for me," then she broke her nose when I let the door go. I then offered her some paper towels for the bleeding. I even went and got her some ice. Guess what, i didn't feel the least bit guilty.
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:09 pm
by Apollofrost
Hey, you help eachother out when you can. It only takes me a few seconds more to hold the door open for the people behind me, so why not do a good deed for good deeds sake? I haven't experienced anything like qwerty's scenario but if people are going to be ****s its easier to just ignore them, they're just looking for someone to mess with and when they find out that you aren't going to play allong they usually leave (the demented lady that yells at me when I walk my dog nonwithstanding). For some reason it just gives me a great feeling of satisfaction walking away from people who insult me, preferably mid scentence. I think its because I know it riles them more than any four letter word or witty come back ever could.
Oh, update on the coat. I was in a cafe a few hours ago and a guy walked up to me and said "So, are you a vampire or a werewolf?"
"Neither... why?" I asked puzzled
"I've just seen you around wearing that coat and dressed all in black."
"Yeah, I bought the coat when I was living in a much colder place."
"Oh, ok... so what clan are you?"
*facepalms*
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:12 am
by qwerty
I ignore insults. I'm a misfit, so I'm immune by now. However, I still try to make choices for the highest good of all concerned. Most people simply need to be ignored to get the message, and that's what i usually do. However, some people have delusions, and need to be intervened with for their own good. I'm happy to ablidge. I am pleased when I hold the first door for someone, and they hold the next door for me. That is what respect and equality is all about. I try to give people what they need, because that's what "fair" really is. If you don't want me to hold the door, no problem, I'll not hold the door. If you consequently walk into the door and break your nose, well, that's your problem. I'll still bring you ice, and I won't say a word, because you taught yourself a lesson, if you choose to learn.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:29 am
by Apollofrost
+1