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CentralOzzy wrote:Unfortunately Rugby is STILL HERE!

Now there's a game for Neanderthals!

I remember a quote, but can't remember who said it....

Football is a gentlemans game, played by hooligans
Rugby is a hooligans game, played by gentlemen


seems quite accurate to me

NIB, I'd rather watch motorcycle racing or better still Ride one than watch Rugby!

(Or paint dry for that matter)..........Perhaps not.

Three cheers for this post.

I try to keep myself in check, but I'm not at all unfamiliar with out-right verbally correcting people who talk to me which incredibly poor grammar. I don't mind the slang so much, really, but grammar requires decyphering meaning

I think a lot of the destruction of grammar (that's what this thread is about, right, not football?) comes from mixes of popular media and normal social/behavior functions. I've got very, er, 'debatable' views on social functions, cultures, subcultures, and all of that, so I'll spare you all the crap and get down to the point:

All the kids (regardless of sex, color, or nationality) who say things like 'What it do' or 'Where it be' or 'Them straight fools' (and all that other horrible sounding stuff) listen to rap/hip-hop.

The kids with the normal grammar are usually rock'n'roll or country listeners.

The kids who will/do listen (and not complain, compared to those who'd throw a hairy fit) to classical music have the best grammar, and usually a larger vocabulary.

(How do I know what they listen to? Because I'm personable with my customers. Kind of like people used to be with their barber, I guess.)

If people have to imitate famous people to feel good, I wish they'd at least pick someone who displayed some intelligence instead of who's 'most material'.

*Restrains self from rambling further*

Actually, what I am finding is American language creeping into British language. I'll give you 1 example. When I was at school many yrs ago
the letter Z was pronounced Zed. When my grandson was reciting the alphabet to me the other day he pronounced Z as Zee. There are many other pronounciations as well. Corrr, thats a long word.

Telesque wrote:Three cheers for this post.

I think a lot of the destruction of grammar (that's what this thread is about, right, not football?) comes from mixes of popular media and normal social/behavior functions.
All the kids who say things like 'What it do' or 'Where it be' or 'Them straight fools' (and all that other horrible sounding stuff) listen to rap/hip-hop.

The kids with the normal grammar are usually rock'n'roll or country listeners.

The kids who will/do listen to classical music have the best grammar, and usually a larger vocabulary.

(How do I know what they listen to? Because I'm personable with my customers. Kind of like people used to be with their barber, I guess.)

If people have to imitate famous people to feel good, I wish they'd at least pick someone who displayed some intelligence instead of who's 'most material'.
*Restrains self from rambling further*

Hmmmmm.....Veeeery Interesting....Sounds reasonable.

barmy_carmy wrote:Actually, what I am finding is American language creeping into British language. I'll give you 1 example. When I was at school many yrs ago
the letter Z was pronounced Zed. When my grandson was reciting the alphabet to me the other day he pronounced Z as Zee. There are many other pronounciations as well. Corrr, thats a long word.

Zed is still common here too. I remeber as a teenager, wondering what kind of bikes these 'Y-ZEE's' that the Americans talked about were. All we had in Canada was 'Y-ZED's'.....

It's a British/English/Aust. Empire thing.

This "zed" thing intrigues me. I like it - makes the letter sound more serious, and less lazyeeeeeeee.

Cheers,
Loonette

but it also has subtle implications in life.... I learnt a different alphabet song to you "zee" guys over the pond

funnily enough though, the lyrics were the same

Nibblet99 wrote:but it also has subtle implications in life.... I learnt a different alphabet song to you "zee" guys over the pond

funnily enough though, the lyrics were the same

The lyrics... you mean, well, 26 letters?

I don't think I could deal with that. It'd be like one giant phonetic joke.

Every letter you stress in 'the alphabet song' has a 'ee' sound. Gee, Pee, Vee, and ... 'Zed'? It's like a blossoming rose with one dead petal.