Laurence Fishburn gets high before riding

[badinfluence63]

Wrider,Kal,

That works for you and thats important you know that about yourselves. I do what works for me and have never had a single DUI in 36+years, go figure. Its not luck.... its knowing what works for me. I don't push what works for me on others and I don't let others push onto me what works for them.End of.

While drunk driving as defined by the local statutes is considered acceptable by most, it is not not a substitute for morality, a persons decision making policy or an individual knowing themselves good enough to honestly read and react to a given aituation. It isn't by accident that my ability to know myself and my ability to make good decisions have kept me DUI free for 36+ years. Legislation is not the answer either because often as not its yet another knee jerk reaction from the politically correct crowd and don't end up doing any good either. The established DUI numbers/limits are bullshit and you know it.

Next thing you'll be telling me is cops are here to help so cooperate fully..........

[Kal]

Dave died and his finance was critically injured, as in had to be pinned back to gether because some stupid "fudge" - like you - thought that having two or three beers didn't matter cornered too quickly and met Dave on Daves side of the road at the mid point of the corner.



You've been lucky so far. Guy that killed Dave had been lucky for years too. He was only 50% over the legal limit at the time.

[dean owens]

kal and the rest...

honestly, i wouldn't even worry about trying to "argue" anymore. common sense doesn't work in this thread. who cares that everyone knows that driving while impaired can lead to death - it doesn't apply in his world. somehow he's able to live by his own laws and everything is fine.

and badinfluence...

i really mean no disrespect. i'm not agree at you. i blame no one for my brother's death but him. he was the one who drove after (or possibly) while drinking. he had done it for years (probably 30+) and it finally caught up to him. i hope it never catches up to you. and please don't take this wrong - but if it does i hope no one else is involved.

amazingly, i think we would agree on a lot of things. i think a lot of laws are vote getters, over reactions, and revenue generators. although i don't know it that it does a lot over the i-net i agree with you're trying to help guzzi. a lack of forgiveness eats at the soul and isn't good for your health. to me, it's giving someone else too much control over me. but we obviously disagree here.

just out of curiosity, do you believe in having a law against murder?

[badinfluence63]

Kal,

Thanks for showing your ignorance Kal. While it is unfortunate about your freinds and I am sorry for your loss, I didn't kill your freinds and I am not a stupid "fudge" either. The instigator of the situation made bad choices. I don't do that. Foolish him for giving in to the false euphoria of a few beers. Bad read and reacting on his part. I don't understand that because I mean after all we have all those DUI laws protecting us?

I guarantee you that the person who caused this unfortunate situation was probably not a very brite person in the first place and having the 3-4 beers just accentuated that. Having 3-4 beers isn't what caused that, its how the person who has the 3-4 beers reacted to it. DUI laws don't control that. DUI laws unsuccesfully try to harness decision making processes but that is not the answer. People, individuals have to assume the responsibilities for there actions. A person can have 4-5-6 beers and be responsible. Some people are f'ing goofy after 1 beer. By DUI standards the responsible guy who had 4-5-6 beers is guilty by law, but the f'ing goofy guy who can't handle one is okay. Thats b*llsh*t.

[Kal]

There is a silly amount of medical evidence proving that reaction times decline when there are tonxins in the system

That includes exhaustion dope and alcohol

The first thing alcohol adjusts is your judgement. Beleiving that anything else is just river in Egypt time.

The legal limit should be zero, unfortunately the lobbing powers of the drink industry and the fact that even people that drink have been known to vote means that is unlikely to happen.

The shame of it is I wouldn't mind if you continue to be lucky, I'd not mind if its only going to be you that gets hurt but its when someone else gets hurt that it all goes horribly wrong.

Its kind of like the whole I can handle a 1000cc sportsbike as my first bike arguement

[badinfluence63]

Kal,

The first thing alcohol adjusts is your judgement. Beleiving that anything else is just river in Egypt time

Your statement is rather benign and graciously all unfairly encompassing to your position. A 98 pound nun who never drinks will not have the same affect as the 300 pound guys who drinks a case a day.

There is a silly amount of medical evidence proving that reaction times decline when there are tonxins in the system

Yes but your stament leaves out important data yet expects the reader to assume what?

That includes exhaustion dope and alcohol

Again results vary depending on many subject,amounts etc... We are all different and as a consequence results will be greatly squed and varied.

The legal limit should be zero, unfortunately the lobbing powers of the drink industry and the fact that even people that drink have been known to vote means that is unlikely to happen.

Thats so wrong on many levels.

The shame of it is I wouldn't mind if you continue to be lucky, I'd not mind if its only going to be you that gets hurt but its when someone else gets hurt that it all goes horribly wrong.

Its not luck. Its just DUI's as you express them takes away all the responsibility from the individual and that never gonna happen even if the outlaw booze.

Its kind of like the whole I can handle a 1000cc sportsbike as my first bike arguement

No its like arguing with you is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Ultimately laws don't deter peoples behavior and it is the people who control how they behave and even after having 3-4-5 beers that make the difference.

[Kal]

Kal,

The first thing alcohol adjusts is your judgement. Beleiving that anything else is just river in Egypt time

Your statement is rather benign and graciously all unfairly encompassing to your position. A 98 pound nun who never drinks will not have the same affect as the 300 pound guys who drinks a case a day.

There is a silly amount of medical evidence proving that reaction times decline when there are tonxins in the system

Yes but your stament leaves out important data yet expects the reader to assume what?

That includes exhaustion dope and alcohol

Again results vary depending on many subject,amounts etc... We are all different and as a consequence results will be greatly squed and varied.

The legal limit should be zero, unfortunately the lobbing powers of the drink industry and the fact that even people that drink have been known to vote means that is unlikely to happen.

Thats so wrong on many levels.

The shame of it is I wouldn't mind if you continue to be lucky, I'd not mind if its only going to be you that gets hurt but its when someone else gets hurt that it all goes horribly wrong.

Its not luck. Its just DUI's as you express them takes away all the responsibility from the individual and that never gonna happen even if the outlaw booze.

Its kind of like the whole I can handle a 1000cc sportsbike as my first bike arguement

No its like arguing with you is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Ultimately laws don't deter peoples behavior and it is the people who control how they behave and even after having 3-4-5 beers that make the difference.

You'll just have to forgive me for that.

Put it down to a combination of expecting you to be able to google the link between judgement/reactions and toxins and a "I really can't be arsed to right now" because I remember exactly what was lost, and how angry your attitude makes me.

[badinfluence63]

dean,

honestly, i wouldn't even worry about trying to "argue" anymore. common sense doesn't work in this thread. who cares that everyone knows that driving while impaired can lead to death - it doesn't apply in his world. somehow he's able to live by his own laws and everything is fine.

Oh the slings and arrows. But what you said has been the case.

and badinfluence...

i really mean no disrespect. i'm not agree at you. i blame no one for my brother's death but him. he was the one who drove after (or possibly) while drinking. he had done it for years (probably 30+) and it finally caught up to him. i hope it never catches up to you. and please don't take this wrong - but if it does i hope no one else is involved.

Thats sad about your brother. It won't happen to me because at 51 my natural survival skills are not as they once were. Hand eye coordination is a little off. Same with my reaction time. Periphery vision is not the best. So being the person I am and which has allowed me to live my life my way all my life tells me other adjustments in my life are in order. And unlike many people you see on the road every day, when I am too old to feel that I am driving safely, I will cease. You see there are people like me who quietly go about there lives utilizing Gods gift called the brain and the realization that life is reading and reacting and using that brain.

amazingly, i think we would agree on a lot of things. i think a lot of laws are vote getters, over reactions, and revenue generators. although i don't know it that it does a lot over the i-net i agree with you're trying to help guzzi. a lack of forgiveness eats at the soul and isn't good for your health. to me, it's giving someone else too much control over me. but we obviously disagree here.

just out of curiosity, do you believe in having a law against murder?

Lets just say if we are in Macdonalds or a bus station or a restaurant and someone tries to go on a killing spree and I'm there...... its over.

And yes I have a pistol permit in good standings gun owner and I ain't arguing about that. Youse can say what you want. They can have my gun when they pry it out of my cold dead finger as I lay next to a bunch of empty beer bottles .

[badinfluence63]

KAl,

My attitude? My attitude is one that embraces the responsibility of being free. I haven't been DUI free by accident or luck.

Your attitude sux. If more people would be conscientious about the quality of there daily actions in all aspects once awake instead of creating a bunch of over bearing and unreasonable rules so people like you can site them as a reason for anything as a solution, you would reduce much stupidity in this world. The laws I disdain have been put in place as a hopeful substitute for people who generally lost the ability or effort to look with in themselves for correct behavior.

I see your from England.