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Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:14 pm
by High_Side
HYPERR wrote: I dunno. I have not even thought of the fuel filter yet on the Hyper. I only have about 4300 miles on it. When is it supposed to be changed?
I'm not sure without looking and I'm too lazy to look at the moment. However the dealer and others suggested that this might be the problem "as the GT1000 doesn't normally have these types of problems". I went through the effort and there was absolutely nothing in it.
HYPERR wrote: I didn't know about the suspension woes. I know the fueling sucked as the fat duc originated for that bike. Speaking of the fat duc, I just ordered the 02 manipulator from them. Can't wait to try it. :kicking: It does surge a little at low rpms so hopefully this will smooth it out. It's stock other than the Leo Vince cat eliminator.
I'm tending to keep my bikes closer to stock these days.....if you overlook the carbon cans on the 'Duke. Less troubles overall.

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:45 pm
by HYPERR
High_Side wrote:
HYPERR wrote: I dunno. I have not even thought of the fuel filter yet on the Hyper. I only have about 4300 miles on it. When is it supposed to be changed?
I'm not sure without looking and I'm too lazy to look at the moment. However the dealer and others suggested that this might be the problem "as the GT1000 doesn't normally have these types of problems". I went through the effort and there was absolutely nothing in it.
I looked in the manual and nowhere does it say anything about changing the fuel filter. Does it even have one? :shock:

High_Side wrote:
HYPERR wrote: I didn't know about the suspension woes. I know the fueling sucked as the fat duc originated for that bike. Speaking of the fat duc, I just ordered the 02 manipulator from them. Can't wait to try it. :kicking: It does surge a little at low rpms so hopefully this will smooth it out. It's stock other than the Leo Vince cat eliminator.
I'm tending to keep my bikes closer to stock these days.....if you overlook the carbon cans on the 'Duke. Less troubles overall.
I would leave stuff like that alone normally but obviously the Italians obviously don't know how to meter fuel. The fuel injection is flawless on the CBR. The Bay Em Vay has that infamous slight surging around the 3000rpm but it's hardly noticeable. The surging is more noticeable on the Ducati and it is right off idle making it much more annoying.

Your new Monster has the Siemens(German I assume?) fuel injection correct? I hear the fuel metering is much smoother.

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:24 am
by Brackstone
High_Side wrote:
Brackstone wrote: Pearl White looks so nice.
Thanks. It was a selling feature for Mrs. High_Side.

One thing that is definitely a step backwards is access to the battery. Six pages in the manual and it is still a byatch to do (I working on it today, thus the frustration)
Gah I know,

I have to hook up a batter tender cable thing to it. I'm really not looking forward to it. You want to come to New Jersey and do mine after you do hers? I figure it won't take you long since you'll be an expert :)

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:02 pm
by High_Side
Brackstone wrote:
High_Side wrote:
Brackstone wrote: Pearl White looks so nice.
Thanks. It was a selling feature for Mrs. High_Side.

One thing that is definitely a step backwards is access to the battery. Six pages in the manual and it is still a byatch to do (I working on it today, thus the frustration)
Gah I know,

I have to hook up a batter tender cable thing to it. I'm really not looking forward to it. You want to come to New Jersey and do mine after you do hers? I figure it won't take you long since you'll be an expert :)
It will be a lot easier next time, but it's a little far to travel. If you get stuck, drop me a line and I'll help you out.

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:26 am
by sapaul
One of the conditions of being allowed :oops: the R850 R was that I do the wrenching myself. I also found out the fuel filter resides in the tank. I have done everything else, Plugs, oil, filter, which you have to buy a special tool for as it sits inside the casing, brakes, new tyres, valves, final drive lube. All except that fuel filter which terrifies me.

Agreed on the white by the way, looks stunning. I like bright colored bikes

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:00 pm
by HYPERR
sapaul wrote:One of the conditions of being allowed :oops: the R850 R was that I do the wrenching myself. I also found out the fuel filter resides in the tank. I have done everything else, Plugs, oil, filter, which you have to buy a special tool for as it sits inside the casing, brakes, new tyres, valves, final drive lube. All except that fuel filter which terrifies me.
Funny you just posted this as I just did my fuel filter today. It's definitely a pain in the :arse: but it's not really that difficult. It just requires removing a ton of dodo to get to the stupid thing. If you are mechanically inclined enough to adjust your valves, you are more than qualified to do this job. I did have a SNAFU today however. One of the infamous plastic POS fuel line quick disconnects cracked when I was removing it. :rant: So I rode the CBR to the BMW dealer about an hour away. What a rip off they are(the quick disconnects, not the dealer). I bought two(one for a spare) and they were about $60 each. Even the parts guy commented on what a rip off they are. :laughing: I did notice however that the part that broke on mine is now made of metal instead of plastic. :roll: Got home put everything back together and took it for a ride. Thank goodness I won't have to do this for another 24K miles. :kicking:

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:14 pm
by High_Side
HYPERR wrote: I looked in the manual and nowhere does it say anything about changing the fuel filter. Does it even have one? :shock:.
I missed this response when you posted it, but I don't know. It SHOULD have one, but hten it should be in the manual.
HYPERR wrote:
Your new Monster has the Siemens(German I assume?) fuel injection correct? I hear the fuel metering is much smoother.
I'm not sure about the manufacturer of the injection, but it is a little rougher than the S2R and much more cold blooded. This seems to be a Ducati trend with their newer bikes that I have tried.....

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:47 pm
by HYPERR
High_Side wrote: I'm not sure about the manufacturer of the injection, but it is a little rougher than the S2R and much more cold blooded. This seems to be a Ducati trend with their newer bikes that I have tried.....
I got the fatduc 02 manipulator and put it on last Saturday. I started it on the leanest setting and I noticed that the surging was noticeably reduced and the engine felt much smoother accelerating. I have been tweaking it richer every time I ride and I am at around the 13.5 ratio mark right now and it keeps improving. The surging is significantly reduced and the engine keeps getting smoother. I also got better mpg as well if you can believe it. This has got to be the best $87 one can spend on an engine modification. :kicking:

Re: Ducati is worse?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:30 pm
by HYPERR
High_Side wrote:
HYPERR wrote: The new Monster is absolutely mfugly. The old Monster was one of the most beautiful bike ever made.

I like 'em both, but the red one's for sale :mrgreen:
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I never understood the hate for the new Monsters. I was unsure about the new style when the pics first come out, but in the flesh the bike looks great. It works great too.
It has finally grown on me and I actually like the looks of it now. Especially the pearl white. :laughing:

Usually that doesn't happen with me. If I hate/love a design, it stays fairly constant. I thought the Terblanche Fuelie Supersports were mfugly when they came out in 1999 and I still do. I loved the radical and controversial Terblanche 999 Superbike from day one.