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Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:07 pm
by zeligman
Katharine wrote:
DAMN! You're good. My partner's dad is obsessed with that movie... I had never even heard of it before that, lol. Is that one of those cult classics and I just never knew it?
S&*T! 'classic' ? dad? dammit, that movie was in the 80's - and please don't tell me it qualifies for 'classic' status or ... god forbid ... 'oldies!" it's bad enough that elevators now have muzak versions of the who and rolling stones tunes!
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:31 pm
by storysunfolding
There is no legal definition of scooters in Va. Legally, any powered two wheeler is a motorcycle. Scooter is just the vernacular for a stepthrough.
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:44 pm
by Hondagirl
I love other motorcycle riders. I cant see their faces but they feel like friends. Much more so than those horrible cages with 4 wheels that think they own the roads
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:56 pm
by Wrider
Superfly3176 wrote:
Scooters aren't motorcycles, there's a distinctive difference in how they operate, how you sit on them etc. They're only motorcycles in the sense that they have 2 wheels. VRODs aren't real harley davidsons, because well, harley davidsons make 45 degree aircooled vtwins. The Vrod doesn't fit in that category.
Cars and trucks aren't that close either. They're both motor vehicles, and sure they share quite a bit in common. But nobody is mistaking a car for a truck. A truck normally sits higher, has a bed, is and is built for a number of things, hauling/towing, offroading etc. I don't see many cars hauling a load of stone, or pulling a fullsize camper, or offroading. But I see trucks doing it all the time.
It's funny you'd mention a sportster not being a real harley davidson. Last time I checked it had a 45 degree aircooled vtwin. Not to mention it's harley davidson's longest running line of motorcycles dating back to 1957. This is longer running than the current softail (1984), Dyna (1991), Touring (1980).
If you want to get technical you're entering my realm now. Technically a scooter IS a motorcycle. A motorcycle is a vehicle with two (or three depending on the state/country) wheels that is driven forward by a motor or engine of some sort. Blurring the line would be a moped with pedals. So scooters ARE motorcycles.
The VRod is a Harley Davidson. It is not a TRADITIONAL Harley Davidson, but it is one nonetheless. As for those that argue it's a Porsche engine in there, noooo. Porsche helped design the motor, but Kawasaki and Yamaha have helped with the Evo and the Twin Cam engines respectively. Does that make them non-Harleys as well? Don't think so.
I see plenty of trucks (including mine) that see use as a daily driver, commuter, people carrier, and just happen to have the extra capability of carrying/towing a load. Depending on whether you get a 4x4 or not, some of the 2 wheel drive trucks sit lower than some cars I've seen stock for stock.
He's not saying Sporties aren't real HDs, he's saying a lot of HD fans say they're not real HDs, mainly because they don't come in the 96 CI displacement like the Twin Cam does.
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:20 am
by jstark47
storysunfolding wrote:There is no legal definition of scooters in Va. Legally, any powered two wheeler is a motorcycle. Scooter is just the vernacular for a stepthrough.
Same thing with New Jersey. The only two-wheeled vehicle that is legally different is a moped, which must have pedals to assist the engine, and cannot be able to exceed 25 mph. Anything with two wheels and an engine that doesn't fit the moped definition is a motorcycle.
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:16 am
by kennyp46
Superfly3176 wrote:HYPERR wrote:Superfly3176 wrote:
I don't see many cars hauling a load of stone, or pulling a fullsize camper, or offroading. But I see trucks doing it all the time.
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The El Camino and the Ranchero come to mind. Look like cars carry load like trucks.
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:37 pm
by Katharine
zeligman wrote:Katharine wrote:
DAMN! You're good. My partner's dad is obsessed with that movie... I had never even heard of it before that, lol. Is that one of those cult classics and I just never knew it?
S&*T! 'classic' ? dad? dammit, that movie was in the 80's - and please don't tell me it qualifies for 'classic' status or ... god forbid ... 'oldies!" it's bad enough that elevators now have muzak versions of the who and rolling stones tunes!
Well, since I do hear songs from the 80s on the oldies station, I think it qualifies.
Of course, when it comes to pop culture, everything becomes a classic so much faster, as I realized when a song from maybe the 90s or 00s came on my coworker's car radio and I thought "whoa, old-school... Wait, what?"
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:51 pm
by Wrider
kennyp46 wrote:Superfly3176 wrote:HYPERR wrote:Superfly3176 wrote:
I don't see many cars hauling a load of stone, or pulling a fullsize camper, or offroading. But I see trucks doing it all the time.
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The El Camino and the Ranchero come to mind. Look like cars carry load like trucks.
If you want a modern version, look at the Holden Ute. Like a Camino or Ranchero, but modern looks, and a LS6 under the hood.
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:12 am
by HYPERR
Wrider wrote:kennyp46 wrote:Superfly3176 wrote:HYPERR wrote:Superfly3176 wrote:
I don't see many cars hauling a load of stone, or pulling a fullsize camper, or offroading. But I see trucks doing it all the time.
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The El Camino and the Ranchero come to mind. Look like cars carry load like trucks.
If you want a modern version, look at the Holden Ute. Like a Camino or Ranchero, but modern looks, and a LS6 under the hood.
LS6?
I'll take mine in a 1970 version. And make mine a Chevelle SS454 instead of the El Camino.
Re: I hate other motorcycle riders
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:29 am
by sv-wolf
Marvin wrote:I have been riding motorcycles for over 30 years, I was owning and riding all types of motorcycles before they became popular and I hate you new riders, you guys think you're an expert, you think you're cool, you think you have skills riding one that nobody else has, you dress up looking like clowns on a bike, you guys think all the women want you more just because you ride a bike, some of you think of yourself as a tough guy just because you ride, you think you're an experienced motorcycle mechanic because you did something simple like adjust a chain or tighten a spoke.
But one thing you don't have is the love and passion of riding a motorcycle, you see I have nothing to prove to any of you other motorcycle riders cause I don't ride to prove and pretend to be someone I am not.
I see it almost everyday one guy has the biggest and baddest bike out there but a blind man can see he can't ride it, my favorate talking point I say to almost every rider I meet is "Nice Bike Too Bad You Can't Ride It"
Yea, I ride a 500 scooter thats not fast, it doesn't have the rip your arms off acceleration, yea you guys cut it down and make fun of it, but at least I don't have to pretend to be someone I am not and I didn't buy it to impress you, I bought it for me for my passion and fun, but you'll never know I can take that big HD you have been riding for 5 years and ride it better than you.
I don't have any riding buddies anymore
Just seen this. It has to be a joke or a wind-up, right?
LOL. Marvin, old fellah, you're in serious danger of becoming the pub bore.