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TeeMan · #31 Unread post by **TeeMan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:10 am

Also, if there were a bunch of substandard DOT-only helmets out there, we'd have heard about it by now.

Same goes with Snell helmets being too hard in real accidents. No?

There's no question you'll have an injury in a serious crash, so does anyone really stop to say, hmmm, could it have been a bit less? Crash = Injury, no one really looks any further. Plus, until you reach the point where you have brain damage, does anyone really know how hard the impact was? Think of a boxer, they take blows constantly but its only that last few (of their career/life) where you see the effects of all the previous hits. If all the previous ones were milder blows, they probably would have been able to take many more hits. Just my 2 cents.

#32 Unread post by **sv-wolf** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:14 am

Hi cb360

Thanks for the link on dropped lids. Appreciated.

Cheers

Richard

#33 Unread post by **cb360** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:25 am

Anything I can do to help save a biker a few bucks! I've always heard a dropped helmet was no good but it seemed to me that a 3 foot drop wasn't THAT big a deal when the helmet was empty.

NCRonB · #34 Unread post by **NCRonB** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:39 am

TeeMan wrote:There's no question you'll have an injury in a serious crash, so does anyone really stop to say, hmmm, could it have been a bit less?

There doesn't have to be a head injury in a serious crash. I guess it depends on how you define serious, but the guy from the link I posted about a crash in one of the worst performing helmets from the Motorcyclist article had no head injury at all.

Crash = Injury, no one really looks any further.

Helmet manufacturers presumably try every day to make injuries a bit less than before; that's why we have better helmets today than 20 years ago.

does anyone really know how hard the impact was?

That's why I take lab tests with a grain of salt. I would like stats on the forces on one's head in real life crashes. I wouldn't be surprised if helmets soon had embedded measuring devices that the manufacturer could read to help improve their products and provide us with some useful numbers.

#35 Unread post by **cb360** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:57 am

Yeah - like a 'black box' for the helmet!

Relsek · #36 Unread post by **Relsek** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:56 pm

My son was in a bike crash two days ago, check out this thread on the busa forum and you can see how his helmet protected him. I will only wear a full face myself. Mine is a Shoei and it's loud.

http://www.hayabusa.org/cgi-bin/busa/ik ... 31;t=33416;

Kevin

#37 Unread post by **sv-wolf** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:48 pm

When I hit the tarmac at 40mph last year, I landed on my face. My helmet was almost undamaged apart from a hefty scrape on the chinguard and a gouged visor. If I ever thought of wearing a half face helmet before the accident, I wouldn't even dream of it now.

Mintbread · Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:45 pm

I know exactly how you feel. I was doing about that speed when a taxi pulled out from the curb to do a u-turn. I had moved to the middle of the road because I assumed he would come out but not far enough as he hit the side of my bike as I was going past. I only flew about six feet but the angle he hit me at caused me to land flat on my back. I didn't even slide, because I bounced and landed back on my feet. My helmet hit so hard on the back that there were several large pieces of bitumen imbeded in the helmet.
If anyone wants to tell me that I was capable of keeping my head off the ground if not for the helmet, they are kidding themselves.
Without it I would be dead.