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Here's a good reason why you don't buy one as your first bike. This is his frist 5 secs on one.

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/fastbikecrash.html

Like I said in a post I made below, the only reason I've been doing so well so far is past experience with dirt bikes and the occasional ride on a friend's Gixxer (which scare the poop out of me...)

2 weeks and counting, learning at a phenomenal rate, and loving the bike, though I respect her like I'm riding a friggin' shark.

iwannadie wrote:http://www.scootertrashst.com/video_cli ... katana.wmv

guess that guy didnt read your post, and hes only on a katana...

huh wrote:i disagree. after riding the current crop of 600's and many others their lack of torque makes them easy to ride. nothing at all happens below 9,000 rpm. like a ninja 250 below 9k. above that and they become swift but not overwhelming.
their lite weight makes the ideal for new riders. you really have to work at keeping the r's up to be quick which most new riders dont have the skills to do so.

now any ss liter bike is bad news for sure. because of the high torque.

corvette gets out of hand fast because of the torque (combined with the hp)
get my point? but of course there are those idiots that are out to prove their man hood. (or person hood) but you cant help those anyway.
but for the educated rider the 600 ss are a good place to start. myself on the other hand perfer the more up right postion offered up by my bandit.

btw my first bike was a 87 honda shadow 700

that link didnt come up for me. but i can take a guess on what it was about. like i said there are those idiots that you cant help. they will crash anything be it a cr50,gsxr-1000 or a shopping cart.

I just got a 03' ZR-7S back in Feb... I grew up on dirt bikes but I think the ZR-7S's 750 and how it is geared is a good starter bike.

Okay, I'll bite. You think it's a good starter bike. I'm willing to consider that possiblility. I've never ridden one after all. But put yourself in the shoes of a guy (or girl) who has NEVER even sat on a motorcycle.

Let's say also that the person has never driven anything even remotely fast, and has decided to ride a motorcycle due to the increasing price of gas.

This "hypothetical" person is used to accelerating from 0 to 60 MPH in about the time it takes the Kawi to go from 0 to 100 MPH and back to 0. Still think the newb should be turned loose on the Z7?

Will the Z7 wheelie? In the hands of someone who has no idea of how to modulate throttle and clutch conrol?

I rest my case. You've ridden bikes before, so you have a vague idea of what to expect. To suggest that it is an acceptible beginner bike though is ludicrous. (At least for someone who hasn't ridden before.)

iwannadie wrote:http://www.scootertrashst.com/video_cli ... katana.wmv

guess that guy didnt read your post, and hes only on a katana...

THAT guy was at a dragstrip trying to get every last bit outta the bike off the line that he could. THAT is not a case of a 600 sportbike sneaking up and biting someone......

High_Side wrote:

iwannadie wrote:http://www.scootertrashst.com/video_cli ... katana.wmv

guess that guy didnt read your post, and hes only on a katana...

THAT guy was at a dragstrip trying to get every last bit outta the bike off the line that he could. THAT is not a case of a 600 sportbike sneaking up and biting someone......

i dont know, he didnt seem like he was a pro drag racer, lookd more like some guy off the street that took his bike to the track and had it get away easy enough. probally didnt expect the grip to be like it was.

iwannadie wrote:

High_Side wrote:

iwannadie wrote:http://www.scootertrashst.com/video_cli ... katana.wmv

guess that guy didnt read your post, and hes only on a katana...

THAT guy was at a dragstrip trying to get every last bit outta the bike off the line that he could. THAT is not a case of a 600 sportbike sneaking up and biting someone......

i dont know, he didnt seem like he was a pro drag racer, lookd more like some guy off the street that took his bike to the track and had it get away easy enough. probally didnt expect the grip to be like it was.

Obviously he's not a pro drag racer but the point is that he is drag racing! If you want to use clips of 600cc bikes causing death to their riders don't use a clip of someone trying to squeeze the bike at the drag strip.....or should all starter bikes be certifyably safe for drag strip runs as well?????
This bike did not sneak up and bite him. He did this to himself and should have known the risks when he signed the waiver at the race track.....

i dont see how it matters. he tried to do something he shouldnt had and the bike took off on him. wouldnt matter if hes at a strip or not, or if its his first time at the strip. same thing could have happend to him at a redlight when he decided to try and race the car next to him. point is the bike had enough to take off on him with too much throttle intentional or not.

High_Side wrote:

iwannadie wrote:

High_Side wrote:

iwannadie wrote:http://www.scootertrashst.com/video_cli ... katana.wmv

guess that guy didnt read your post, and hes only on a katana...

THAT guy was at a dragstrip trying to get every last bit outta the bike off the line that he could. THAT is not a case of a 600 sportbike sneaking up and biting someone......

i dont know, he didnt seem like he was a pro drag racer, lookd more like some guy off the street that took his bike to the track and had it get away easy enough. probally didnt expect the grip to be like it was.

Obviously he's not a pro drag racer but the point is that he is drag racing! If you want to use clips of 600cc bikes causing death to their riders don't use a clip of someone trying to squeeze the bike at the drag strip.....or should all starter bikes be certifyably safe for drag strip runs as well?????
This bike did not sneak up and bite him. He did this to himself and should have known the risks when he signed the waiver at the race track.....

Toyuzu wrote:Okay, I'll bite. You think it's a good starter bike. I'm willing to consider that possiblility. I've never ridden one after all. But put yourself in the shoes of a guy (or girl) who has NEVER even sat on a motorcycle.

Let's say also that the person has never driven anything even remotely fast, and has decided to ride a motorcycle due to the increasing price of gas.

This "hypothetical" person is used to accelerating from 0 to 60 MPH in about the time it takes the Kawi to go from 0 to 100 MPH and back to 0. Still think the newb should be turned loose on the Z7?

Will the Z7 wheelie? In the hands of someone who has no idea of how to modulate throttle and clutch conrol?

I rest my case. You've ridden bikes before, so you have a vague idea of what to expect. To suggest that it is an acceptible beginner bike though is ludicrous. (At least for someone who hasn't ridden before.)

Ok fair enough... I get your point ... however it really depends on the person. How mature they are etc.