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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:04 am
by kabob983
fiveoboy01 wrote:Right. Who cares if bikes with 1/3 the power are lapping your "O Ring" in the twisties if you're stylin??
The mindset of a s...
Never mind, I won't say it.
Oh so true. I get a kick watching someone on a "n00b" bike (like an EX500 or GS500) go flying past someone's brand new ZX-10R in a corner simply because the ninja rider has no clue how to turn, has no confidence, etc. Sure when they hit a straightaway he'll catch up and maybe even pass, but next curve it's deja vu all over again!
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:16 am
by Myself002
kabob983 wrote:fiveoboy01 wrote:Right. Who cares if bikes with 1/3 the power are lapping your "O Ring" in the twisties if you're stylin??
The mindset of a s...
Never mind, I won't say it.
Oh so true. I get a kick watching someone on a "n00b" bike (like an EX500 or GS500) go flying past someone's brand new ZX-10R in a corner simply because the ninja rider has no clue how to turn, has no confidence, etc. Sure when they hit a straightaway he'll catch up and maybe even pass, but next curve it's deja vu all over again!
yeah but when that guy on the zx-10r or the gixxer in verms case learns how to turn he'll be the one lapping the gs 500 so what if it takes longer so long as the end result is the same.
Anyway someone learns as long as they are safe is acceptable.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:38 am
by VermilionX
Dichotomous wrote:you obvously missed the point. yes those are great things to have on a bike once you have the skills to ride a regular bike and are confident in your cornering and such. as it is you are going to be relying on them much more than you would if you didnt start with those.
hey, guess what, you can mount up the gsxr plastics to just about any sportish bike! there you go, have yourself a gs500 that looks exactly like a gixxer6... you got your oh so important looks like a cool bike, AND a bike thats going to teach you how to ride. its like how bush said...
fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame un can be fooled a fool again!
nope, the seating position on the GS500 is still not sporty. the handle bars are way too high. it's not aggressive enough.
im not interested in riding non RR bikes so i don't care if i get dependent on steering dampers and such.
and even if i do ride a non-RR bike i'll never ride it the same way as RR bikes. so the lack of a steering damper and other RR goodies won't even be factor.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:34 am
by Skier
I'm scared how expensive your track-day repairs are going to be when you're trying to hang with the big boys.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:53 am
by Joe Rocket=>
Skier wrote:I'm scared how expensive your track-day repairs are going to be when you're trying to hang with the big boys.
Any track bike is going to have expensive repairs. Even if you are one of the "big boys" you are going to have expensive repairs. To push your self to the limit every time you race to win races you are going to wreck every once and a while, it is just a part of it. I think that if V has the self control and the right teaching he can be a good rider, he just needs to take it slow and not learn too much too quick.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:57 am
by Britjoe
The 600 is a awesome peice of kit and styling wise it has it over the 1000 just cause of that fugly ehaust the thousand has, the lack of cubic capacity the 600 has over the 1000 is good because you have more of the power you can usably put the the tarmac, its hard to run a 1000 at full bore, the 600 can do that, ive done it, and consider this new rider's.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:12 am
by Skier
Joe Rocket=> wrote:Skier wrote:I'm scared how expensive your track-day repairs are going to be when you're trying to hang with the big boys.
Any track bike is going to have expensive repairs. Even if you are one of the "big boys" you are going to have expensive repairs. To push your self to the limit every time you race to win races you are going to wreck every once and a while, it is just a part of it. I think that if V has the self control and the right teaching he can be a good rider, he just needs to take it slow and not learn too much too quick.
Ya missed the point. From what I gather from V's posting and describing his riding style and his goals, he's going to head out to the track and think he's better than he is, since the bike is such an incredible machine. He's going to get in over his head and crash more than your average trackday rider. That's why it's going to be expensive.
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:28 am
by Joe Rocket=>
You are probably right, but have you ever ridden with V before? I haven't and I don't go around naming off everything bad thats going to happen to him. And most new people that are on the track are going to wreck more than other people, thats why he needs to take it slow and not try to learn too much too quick.
Re: looks like the stock GSX-R600 is good enough...
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:34 am
by MontyCarlo
VermilionX wrote:... for these kind of moves.
i can't wait to get me one of those.
also, i guess this means i can trust the stock tires if the need arises that i enter a turn too hot provided the tires have warmed up enough.
and looks like it's not a DB windscreen after all that comes w/ the bike but it's definitely higher than the stock gixxer1000 windscreen.
it looks like 45° lean angle. i wonder if it can still go lower.
Who needs an SS bike for those moves?
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:37 am
by dieziege
The problem is that Verm is either intentionally egging people on or very screwed up in the head.
I don't mean to be a jerk about it... but he is buying performance hardware based on style and appearance, not suitability to the task. When he says he will only consider bikes that are red and black, he isn't kidding... he means red and black and won't even consider black and red. He certainly won't consider getting a good bike for someone with a total of 2200 miles of riding to learn with. He'd rather die than be seen on a blue and white bike. I would say he's a sociopath, except they usually have more regard for their own safety.