ZooTech wrote:Was this thread even necessary? Perhaps it was spawned by the fact that today is Mother's Day....
Probably 50% of the posts on this entire forum are "unecessary."
So who made you the relevancy police?
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Randomly hopping on the soap box to tell people not to buy things they can't afford is pretty unnecessary in my book.
Lion_Lady wrote:If you don't have $5K to toss in the trash, THEN don't get into riding... wait until you can afford that kind of 'throwaway expense'.
Oh, heed the wisdom of the BMW rider! My first bike was $800.00, and my second was $1900.00. Who are you to pop in here and declare to everyone that motorcycling is only for the well-off with plenty of disposable income? Is riding a German motorcycle not exclusive enough for you?
Lion_Lady wrote:If you don't have $5K to toss in the trash, THEN don't get into riding... wait until you can afford that kind of 'throwaway expense'.
$5k seems high for a first bike. My first ninja was $1200, gear was $1800 and 6 months of insurance was $123. And i know people who spent less on their bike and gear. Also, not sure how its tossing it int he trash. Biking saves me close to 4k a year compared to operating and insureing my cage. So instead of throwing away 5K i see it as saving 4. Not to mention that if you enjoy something and like doing it then your investing in your pleasure, not so much throwing it away.
JWF
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Sev wrote:What's a bike?
JWF505 wrote:its like a goat, but with two wheels.
JWF505 wrote:Not to mention that if you enjoy something and like doing it then your investing in your pleasure, not so much throwing it away.
No doubt! My bike has saved me thousands of dollars on therapy!
haha, i know what ya mean. My mother sees a theratipst once a week of r a year now, 200 buks an hour, shes in there for 2 hours useally, gonna drive her broke if shes not careful. Bike was 7 buks in fuel for 375 miles, roughly 7.5 hours of riding. So professinal therapy $200per hour, Riding $1 per hour. Yet anouther economical advantage of a bike .
JWF
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Sev wrote:What's a bike?
JWF505 wrote:its like a goat, but with two wheels.
The only thing we can get out of this thread is something everyone should've had coming in... a realization that there are serious differences in situations and people and that blanket categorizations are always going to be wrong.
I'm firmly in the "it is fun, but very practical" category. Every day I ride the bike instead of taking the car, I save $10 real cash money that day. In other words, my car takes $30 worth of gas every two days. My bike takes $10 every two days. If I ride the bike to work 300 days over its lifetime, the bike itself was free. Add another hundred days to cover maintenance, insurance, and so on... if I ride it to work 400 days over the next two years, it will pay for itself completely. It also frees up the car so I can "share" it with some family members, so they don't have to buy another car. That's more money saved. Any extra riding I do just costs me gas and maintenance... and gas and maintenance are cheaper on the bike than a car.
As much as I enjoy riding, I would not have purchased a bike if it didn't make very hard financial and practical sense. Why not? Because I spend my "luxury" money on other things. I'm building an airplane, which I expect to suck $70,000 out of my cash flow over the next four years. THAT is a luxury. I'm putting Bamboo floors in part of my house. THAT is a luxury. A motorcycle is A) cheaper than buying a used car. B) cheaper to ride than driving a car. C) a way to beat traffic on Friday nights (when I regularly get stuck in traffic for 3-4 hours in a car and lane splitting is legal). D) a nice way to break up the monotony of commuting.
Am I 1 in 100? Not around here. A LOT of people commute on bikes around here.
dieziege wrote:
I'm firmly in the "it is fun, but very practical" category. Every day I ride the bike instead of taking the car, I save $10 real cash money that day. In other words, my car takes $30 worth of gas every two days. My bike takes $10 every two days. If I ride the bike to work 300 days over its lifetime, the bike itself was free. Add another hundred days to cover maintenance, insurance, and so on... if I ride it to work 400 days over the next two years, it will pay for itself completely. It also frees up the car so I can "share" it with some family members, so they don't have to buy another car. That's more money saved. Any extra riding I do just costs me gas and maintenance... and gas and maintenance are cheaper on the bike than a car.
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I know what ya mean. In the few months that ive been bikeless i had to reinsure me jeep, make it street legal and feed it abou 2 times a week. In the four months that ive now been without a bike i have put about about 900 buks into street legalizing my jeep and its not even fully legal yet, 1400 for 6 months of insurance and about 50 buks a week for gasoline. Its taken quite the chunk of cash out of my savings. I did some math and if i still had my bike i would have saved about 1300 compared to what ive sent on my cage in these months. For me at least, driving, not riding is a luxury, bikeing is a economical solution to my gas guzzling old jeep.
JWF
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Sev wrote:What's a bike?
JWF505 wrote:its like a goat, but with two wheels.
When you get asked for an opinion, you're on the line for whatever you said. That's all I'm saying. We need to offer the best advice we have, whatever it may be and let the other person figure it out. But once we have offered our opinion we are invested.
Perhaps I may be misreading your meaning, but I assume you are implying we are responsible for the actions which follow the advice seeker. If so, then No, i'm not agreeing. If an opinion is sought, and I offer, once the topic is closed, so is my "investment".
That's what I'm saying, our investment is to give the best advice that we can, we cannot make someone take it, but we need to present it in a compelling and convincing way so that people will actually consider taking it.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.
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