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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:35 am
by Kal
Nope, still not understanding. The Road Attacks have been through all enviroments round as tire of choice on at least two round the world trips and they are cheaper.



It's your bike and your cash though, get the Pilot Powers if thats what you want. I still say that what you presented to the firum was marketing blurb not specs though.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:33 am
by Sev
Yeah, but Diablo sounds cooler.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:43 am
by kabob983
Sevulturus wrote:Yeah, but Diablo sounds cooler.
I figure I can make some $$ off of that mentality, which is why I'm going to release Power Ranger brand tires. I figure the brand recognition alone will win tons of fans!

Re: pilot powers specs?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:41 am
by Joe Rocket=>
VermilionX wrote:hi,

at the moment, im really sold at getting pilot powers for my next tires.


so to those that have used michelin pilot power tires, i have a question....

how accurate are these specs based on your experience?

Pliot Powers


im pretty impressed by its specs.

- fast warm up
- great feedback
- soft but last long
- 41.9º lean at wet, 50.6º lean at dry. NICE! (yes i know rider skill has someting to do w/ it) :wink:


If I were you I would look into getting the pilot road tires. The only reason that I say this is because you are not using all the tire you got now. And it would be harder to wear a flat spot in the middle of them too.
I would only run the powers for aggressive street riding and track days

Re: pilot powers specs?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:49 am
by VermilionX
Joe Rocket=> wrote:
I would only run the powers for aggressive street riding and track days
that's exactly what i intend to do.

i don't really commute w/ bike. i just use it mostly for joy rides.

im working on getting my 1st trackday before this year ends.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:01 pm
by macktruckturner
I slabbed across the gulf coast with minimal squaring on a set of Powers in 100+ degree weather. *shrug* They're fine tires, I doubt he has any issues. It's not as if this is one of his completely brainless "mods." Tires are inexpensive enough, especially if your bike is recreational in nature, that you can afford to try everything that fits your wheel to see what you like best.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:50 pm
by Sev
I've been thinking about this. My bike comes with Pilot Roads standard, which are rated basically the same as the Powers in all respects. Even with my tires at spec air pressure, or slightly less I've found that my back end can slip about a fair bit. In fact, I'm getting used to having the back tire attempt to step out under heavy cornering.

You've said that your stock tires don't slide around to much when you're riding.

So why would Suzuki put worse tires on their 750cc supersport then Honda would put on their budget 600 ride? I think your stock tires might be better for your riding then the powers are.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:00 pm
by VermilionX
Sevulturus wrote:I've been thinking about this. My bike comes with Pilot Roads standard, which are rated basically the same as the Powers in all respects. Even with my tires at spec air pressure, or slightly less I've found that my back end can slip about a fair bit. In fact, I'm getting used to having the back tire attempt to step out under heavy cornering.

You've said that your stock tires don't slide around to much when you're riding.

So why would Suzuki put worse tires on their 750cc supersport then Honda would put on their budget 600 ride? I think your stock tires might be better for your riding then the powers are.
some people say the BT014s are cr@p and some say they're about the same as the PPs.

different peeps have different opinions on them.

so i guess i'll just try it for myself.

i plan to at least try some or all of the best street tires for each manufacturer in this order...

1. michelin PP
2. dunlop qualifiers
3. pirelli diablo
4. metzeler M3

i already tried bridgestone BT014.

they pretty much cost the same depending on where you buy them. :wink:

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:05 pm
by Sev
Yeah, you might as well try them, but like I said, my back end slips around pretty often on me, though I think I'm getting more lean in then you are. So you might want to be careful around there.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:19 pm
by VermilionX
Sevulturus wrote:Yeah, you might as well try them, but like I said, my back end slips around pretty often on me, though I think I'm getting more lean in then you are. So you might want to be careful around there.
when i lowered my psi, it helped. haven't had any slip lately.

and yeah, i don't go balls out in the canyons.

the canyon i practice on is on the technical side and it's close to where i live.

if i can become good at it... other canyons will be easier. :D

sometimes, just to break the monotony... i hit ACH. many people w/ fast bikes like it since it has a lot of sweepers and fast bikes shine on sweepers.