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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:39 am
by Johnj
shane-o wrote:Increase in terrorist actions
Terrorist activity was increasing as the terrorist attacked. I've never figured this mindset out. The terrorist attack is caused by our ability to resist the attack? If we would just let the terrorists go ahead and kill us all then the terrorist attacks will stop?
shane-o wrote:Multi mini wars in various parts of the world
Like there aren't always a couple of "mini-wars' going on.
shane-o wrote:Single handedly weakened the UN for self gain
I wasn't aware that the UN ever had any power so how could we weaken it. Send the whole lot to Sydney for all I care.
shane-o wrote:Killing off thousands of your young soldiers
Guilty
shane-o wrote:The worlds most unhealthy people
Have you been paying attention to the flu. Why do you think hundreds are dying in Mexico and tens in the US?
shane-o wrote:The worlds worst Heath care system
see above
shane-o wrote:Global liars = example; WMD in Iraq
A politician lied, are you telling me you haven't heard of that before.
shane-o wrote:Destabilized the world politically
When was the world politically stable.
shane-o wrote:Single cause of the global economic collapse
I'm thinking the credit piggies run all over the planet.
shane-o wrote:Continued massive polluter of our atmosphere
You should find the numbers for the amount of particulates released verses GNP and you will find the US one of the lowest. After all all our manufacturing jobs have been moved out of the country.
shane-o wrote:One of the highest unemployment rates in the world
Officially not true. Spain reported 17% the other day and we are at about 6%.
shane-o wrote:The highest rate of gun death in the world
Numbers man, check your numbers. Then divide by the population. Then you have to remember a lot of places don't report these kind of numbers so...
shane-o wrote:You make cars that no other country will buy
Me...I don't make the frakin crappy cars. :lol:
shane-o wrote:etc etc etc


Look im not anti-american, my american friends would say the same thing........ but geezuz christ you people better pull ya fookin heads outa ya arses and have a look around to see what the rest of the world sees before you destroy your selves and possibly all of us.
You have a couple of good points, but you also seem to have some of the "It's all Americas fault" thing going on. And if you want to worry about who might blow the world up just look to your northwest.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:47 am
by Gummiente
Ok, folks, let's all take a breather before things get out of hand. Don't feed the trolls, be nice to your neighbour, and all that. :D

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:58 am
by king robb
Just to insure Gummis attempts to cool the crowds dont work...


Does Australia even manufacture any bikes? :P :twisted:

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:46 am
by Gunslinger
king robb wrote:Just to insure Gummis attempts to cool the crowds dont work...


Does Australia even manufacture any bikes? :P :twisted:
Nope. They make cars there but nothing "Australian".

I have to say hats off to Johnj, nice post.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:53 am
by dean owens
Johnj wrote:
shane-o wrote:Global liars = example; WMD in Iraq
A politician lied, are you telling me you haven't heard of that before.
johnj, for the most part i think you did a good job. i just want to throw something out there. a lie is a lie when you know something to be a fact and purposefully say something other than what you know to be fact.

it is constantly brought up that the previous administration (bush) lied about WMD. for it to be a lie would mean that they/he knew there were no WMD and told the world there was. that's possible. but that means that the world was in on the lie. the UN had 17 such instances of telling saddam to get rid of his WMD. the administration before (clinton) the previous one said multiple times that saddam had them and that he was a threat. all of the worlds major governments are on record saying that they thought he had them. and this is before bush was in office.

so, if it was a lie, it was a world wide lie. and if our country was the only one that lied... well we're pretty darn good at it to get the whole world to either believe it (or go along with it). and if it's actually bush that was the liar then i wonder how he got up with the former administration to get them to say it years before bush was ever elected. dang... and everyone says he's stupid. sounds like a pure genius to me.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:42 pm
by shane-o
Gummiente wrote:Ok, folks, let's all take a breather before things get out of hand. Don't feed the trolls, be nice to your neighbour, and all that. :D


lol gummis a mod :)




Mr Gummy,

tell me you dont agree with me ;)


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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:46 pm
by shane-o
Johnj wrote:
shane-o wrote:Increase in terrorist actions
Terrorist activity was increasing as the terrorist attacked. I've never figured this mindset out. The terrorist attack is caused by our ability to resist the attack? If we would just let the terrorists go ahead and kill us all then the terrorist attacks will stop?
shane-o wrote:Multi mini wars in various parts of the world
Like there aren't always a couple of "mini-wars' going on.
shane-o wrote:Single handedly weakened the UN for self gain
I wasn't aware that the UN ever had any power so how could we weaken it. Send the whole lot to Sydney for all I care.
shane-o wrote:Killing off thousands of your young soldiers
Guilty
shane-o wrote:The worlds most unhealthy people
Have you been paying attention to the flu. Why do you think hundreds are dying in Mexico and tens in the US?
shane-o wrote:The worlds worst Heath care system
see above
shane-o wrote:Global liars = example; WMD in Iraq
A politician lied, are you telling me you haven't heard of that before.
shane-o wrote:Destabilized the world politically
When was the world politically stable.
shane-o wrote:Single cause of the global economic collapse
I'm thinking the credit piggies run all over the planet.
shane-o wrote:Continued massive polluter of our atmosphere
You should find the numbers for the amount of particulates released verses GNP and you will find the US one of the lowest. After all all our manufacturing jobs have been moved out of the country.
shane-o wrote:One of the highest unemployment rates in the world
Officially not true. Spain reported 17% the other day and we are at about 6%.
shane-o wrote:The highest rate of gun death in the world
Numbers man, check your numbers. Then divide by the population. Then you have to remember a lot of places don't report these kind of numbers so...
shane-o wrote:You make cars that no other country will buy
Me...I don't make the frakin crappy cars. :lol:
shane-o wrote:etc etc etc


Look im not anti-american, my american friends would say the same thing........ but geezuz christ you people better pull ya fookin heads outa ya arses and have a look around to see what the rest of the world sees before you destroy your selves and possibly all of us.
You have a couple of good points, but you also seem to have some of the "It's all Americas fault" thing going on. And if you want to worry about who might blow the world up just look to your northwest.


you make me laugh :) lol




I never expected you or any other american to agree ;) that wasnt what I was after, you gave me what I wanted, and ya have no clue what that was do you :) hehehehhe


Its all good !!!!!



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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:48 pm
by Johnj
I want to party with you in the pale moonlight. :laughing:

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:20 pm
by RockBottom
dean owens wrote:
Johnj wrote:
shane-o wrote:Global liars = example; WMD in Iraq
A politician lied, are you telling me you haven't heard of that before.
johnj, for the most part i think you did a good job. i just want to throw something out there. a lie is a lie when you know something to be a fact and purposefully say something other than what you know to be fact.

it is constantly brought up that the previous administration (bush) lied about WMD. for it to be a lie would mean that they/he knew there were no WMD and told the world there was. that's possible. but that means that the world was in on the lie. the UN had 17 such instances of telling saddam to get rid of his WMD. the administration before (clinton) the previous one said multiple times that saddam had them and that he was a threat. all of the worlds major governments are on record saying that they thought he had them. and this is before bush was in office.

so, if it was a lie, it was a world wide lie. and if our country was the only one that lied... well we're pretty darn good at it to get the whole world to either believe it (or go along with it). and if it's actually bush that was the liar then i wonder how he got up with the former administration to get them to say it years before bush was ever elected. dang... and everyone says he's stupid. sounds like a pure genius to me.
Heck, if we're going political, this seems like an excellent opportunity to again pump my book (which addresses these issues and is supposed to pay for my motorcycle if the danged publisher ever gets around to giving me my royalties).


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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:19 am
by dean owens
can your book be bought in a b&n or does it have to be bought somewhere online? i might check it out to help support a tmw-er. just give me an up front hint - does it lean to the left or the right? and don't give me that there's no bias. we all have a starting point and it determines our ending point. it's just nice to know going in.