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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:13 am
by NorthernPete
all I know is that its 1.05 Can a litre. Im glad I got my bike running now, so I dont have to keep feeding my V8.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:03 am
by iwannadie
i think people take oil as a 'given' they think its something they deserve or should be provided to them. its a product that some company is using to make money. of course they want to make as much money as possible and dont care if your whole paycheck is going into the pump. gasoline is a luxury not a given, the people that go buy the biggest gas hogging suv are now feeling they are being ripped off by big oil... guess what you bought that vehicle you now have to pay the price of that Luxury. dont like paying high gas prices buy a bicycle and stop complaining. i cant buy a viper you dont hear me saying dodge is out of line charging too much for their car and its not fair to me.(i might try that though)

oil is not like city water its not there For Your convenience. its there as any other higher dollar product designed as something you cant live without so youll pay as much as they want to charge for it. if i was the owner of an oil company id be pushing for 20$ a gallon and guess what people would pay it. if you could only buy gas for 20$ a gallon youd pay cause theres no alternative and even if there was theres still millions of gas powered vehicles that need it, so youd pay 20$ a gallon.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:32 am
by oldnslo
The price of oil doesn't just affect what we personally pay at the pump to fuel up our Yukons and Expeditions. If prices remain high long enough, the effect will be reflected in every single thing depending on transportation of any kind to get to a store near you. This is inflation, and it is something none of us wants if we can possibly help it. In a climate of inflation, our money loses value, and the price of goods goes up.
We are on our way.
A lot of people actually do blame George, which is probably an error. I personally don't think he's smart enough by himself to mess things up this way all alone. He has help.
We the gas and gas-hog buying public are part of that help. Since prices have gone up, we in the US are using MORE GAS THAN EVER. This, obviously, is no way to convey the idea that we think prices are too high. Do not ever expect prices to drop appreciably for any extended length of time, because the Exxon/Mobils of the world can see our willingness to buy at any price. Also, Countries like China, India, et al are experiencing growing demand for the stuff, holding prices up.
Suck it up. Ain't ever gonna be better. Somebody please prove me wrong on this. I really want to be.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:56 am
by eugeart
George Bush is in power as a representative of big money interests. Practically everything he has done has siphoned more money from the American public and into the coffers of large corporations.

We all knew prices were headed this way. Instead of preparing for it, every last dime possible will be wrung from the populace before any changes are really made. This could have been headed off at the pass years ago.

Furthermore, GW is a reactionary president. Not a visionary as some on the right claim. He is only capable of dealing with a problem when it is already to late. Truly, it is our fault though- since we elected him twice.
Bush gets trashed no matter what.
I remember a real President named Clinton who put this country on the path to real prosperity. Look what was done to him. Bush sucks balls compared to Clinton. We're in more debt and looking at another inflation crisis- Just like we've experienced with every Republican president in office for the past twenty-five years.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:11 pm
by oldnslo
I saw on a TV show the other night that the Smithsonian buildings and exhibits are falling apart, and they need a few billion $ to fix up everything. How nice if George could redirect a few Billion of unappreciated and corruptly handled foreign aid to fix things up over at the Smithsonian, and maybe feed some of the hard-up folks right here in the US of A. Some foreign government officials wouldn't get to line their pockets, but what the heck, maybe next time.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:51 pm
by iwannadie
oldnslo wrote:I saw on a TV show the other night that the Smithsonian buildings and exhibits are falling apart, and they need a few billion $ to fix up everything. How nice if George could redirect a few Billion of unappreciated and corruptly handled foreign aid to fix things up over at the Smithsonian, and maybe feed some of the hard-up folks right here in the US of A. Some foreign government officials wouldn't get to line their pockets, but what the heck, maybe next time.
im all for helping people dont get me wrong its tragic how other countries have so many people suffering. But if we cant feed our own people here we dont have any business trying to feed the rest of the world. you shouldnt step over your own family members to go help your neighbor first.

theres way to many homeless jobless starving people right here, and that isnt helping things. youd think theyd be smart enough to realize the more people working and making a good living in the US would be more people paying taxes.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:02 am
by Kal
Someone on this forum recently said that Democracy is the worst form of government... Its just better than the alternatives.

I agree with that. In practical terms a politicians job is to get re-elected, I'm not sure about how it works stateside but we had a lot of interesting Maths done over here just prior to this years election and what it determined is that UK elections are swung by a tiny minority of people in a few constituencys.

In effect 1 or 2% of our population decide who makes up our government for the next term of office. Politicians spend most of their time chasing these folks and the rest of us can go hang because at the end of the day the Politicians job depends on those people.

Being a reactionary politician is safer than being a visionary. A reactionary responds to our problems when we are aware of them plugging the holes in the dam when it is obvious to everyone that the dam is leaking. A visionary politician 'throws' money away on dam maintainence so the vast majority of people never see that there is a problem with the dam in first place.

Its not just an American thing, over here we have a political party who every election tell us how investment in critical infrustructure like housing, health and education can in the long term make life better for all of us. Unfortuantley this means they have to raise taxes in some income bands. Surprisingly they are only the thrid largest party in the UK and few people honestly believe that they will ever be government.

In industrialised societies oil has become the foundation of everything we do. Most of us require oil to build, maintain and provide the services we need where we need them. I think that we are all in for a very rude awakening when the oil eventually runs out, possibly the only people who will be unaffected will be armish communities.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:01 pm
by blues2cruise
I thought it was interesting to look at the date of this old thread and see how we were all complaining about the price of gas back then. :lol:

Seems cheap in comparison to now. :roll:

It was $1.22 litre today. (that's about $4.50 a gallon, I think.)

I don't have a calculator nearby to make the true conversion. Doesn't matter...it's too bleeping much.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:15 am
by storysunfolding
Gas is rising in the U.S. much faster b/c the dollar is declining in value. Of course there are plenty of other factors but that's the big one right now.

I remember when Canadian money was play money :wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:03 am
by JC Viper
So far gas stations in my part of NYC are staying at $3.39 for regular. Once you get into Manhattan things just sky rocket. I guess that's the reason I'm seeing more bikers and people driving that SmartCar compact thingy. Hell, there are a lot of scooters rolling by, and an increase in Piaggio MP3s.

Anyhow at least the US doesn't have to pay too much in way of gas tax which causes high EU prices.

Looking at the price for a gallon of milk is more shocking.