Italy or Japan?

[2006schoolbusyellow250R]

"Soul" does not have a price tag. Unfortunately a lot of buyers of European and US motorcycles do not realise this.
I don't care what you ride or if you want to drop $25,000 on a bike that may look pretty swish but falls short (in comparison) in other departments like performance for example.
I have a Suzuki Bandit that has more soul, in my opinion, than any other bike on the road because I have nursed it back to health after an accident and made it uniquely my own through many hours of hard work.

If you want to pretend that your bike is more special because you paid a fortune for it, good for you.

I paid a lot of money for my bike, K1200S BMW, it is not special because of what I paid, or what the heritage is or how many races they have not won, it is special because of how it makes me feel when I ride it. I have had a couple of really good bikes that made me feel good but nothing as special as this one. This one makes me feel F@$king awsome. If an MV makes someone feel as good as this then it's an awsome bike, but so is the "94" ex500 that someone just bought as his first. My opinion is that if you have to argue this then you have never acheived that feeling.

Proving I don't hate European bikes as a whole, I must say, the K1200S is definately an autobahn-burner of the highest order. Sweet Bimmer.

Oh, but I have achieved that feeling. Even on the "lowly" 1986 Honda Rebel I had a while back, but for my hard-earned $...nothing compares to my little 250R Ninja. Especially in the twisties, and when the engine spins at or beyond 11 grand...the sound is sonorous...

Oh yeah, and thanks HighSide.

[Sev]

You have 3 main points that you argue constantly:

1) You have a 250 ninja
2) The Japanese bikes are better because they're all the same
3) European bikes suck because they don't win races


I have one sum-all response.

1) Stop posting, you won't win.

[bikeguy joe]

So anyhow.....I have and have had both European and Japanese bikes.

I love the reliability and relative low cost of the Japanese bikes.
I love the "charecter" of the European bikes, like running all the power to the ignition through the tail light.....

I don't care if my Japanese bike has a certain anonminity.
I don't care if my European bike has the power running through the tail light.

I've owned American bikes too.

That's all I'm sayin' on that one.

[flynrider]

I love the "charecter" of the European bikes, like running all the power to the ignition through the tail light.....

Wait,,,I've seen this one before! Would you be referring to a BSA, Triumph, or other fine British machine with electrics by Lucas (i.e The Prince of Darkness)?

I used to ride an old BSA that, more often than not, had a big flashlight taped to the handlebars for riding after dark. If that's character, I'll take a soulless machine anyday

[2006schoolbusyellow250R]

I love the "charecter" of the European bikes, like running all the power to the ignition through the tail light.....

Wait,,,I've seen this one before! Would you be referring to a BSA, Triumph, or other fine British machine with electrics by Lucas (i.e The Prince of Darkness)?

I used to ride an old BSA that, more often than not, had a big flashlight taped to the handlebars for riding after dark. If that's character, I'll take a soulless machine anyday

"Prince of Darkness", damned funny. I had a 1976 MGB, I know firsthand of fine Lucas electrics, and before that I had a Fiat, also full of problems...

Sevulturus, I already have won. Now get over it man.

In case you all forgot, I have a Ninja 250R!

[Sev]

Sevulturus, I already have won. Now get over it man.

In case you all forgot, I have a Ninja 250R!

Those of you who think you know everything are a great annoyance to those of us that do.

[bikeguy joe]

I love the "charecter" of the European bikes, like running all the power to the ignition through the tail light.....

Wait,,,I've seen this one before! Would you be referring to a BSA, Triumph, or other fine British machine with electrics by Lucas (i.e The Prince of Darkness)?

I used to ride an old BSA that, more often than not, had a big flashlight taped to the handlebars for riding after dark. If that's character, I'll take a soulless machine anyday

Actually, I was speaking of my beloved Aeromere Capriolo (the one in my avatar) which has loads of "charecter"- among which is the ignition power running through the tail light, a rotating "face cam" (think record player with two bumps to activate the valve rocker arms, and ALL the shift mechenisim on the OUTSIDE of the transmission, but inside the cover right in front of the chain and countershaft sprocket so all the road crud gets slung right into it. I love her dearly, but I'll ride my Japanese bike if I really want to put on some milage, ride to work regularly or spend more time riding than wrenching....

[flynrider]

Actually, I was speaking of my beloved Aeromere Capriolo (the one in my avatar) which has loads of "charecter"- among which is the ignition power running through the tail light, a rotating "face cam" (think record player with two bumps to activate the valve rocker arms, and ALL the shift mechenisim on the OUTSIDE of the transmission, but inside the cover right in front of the chain and countershaft sprocket so all the road crud gets slung right into it. I love her dearly, but I'll ride my Japanese bike if I really want to put on some milage, ride to work regularly or spend more time riding than wrenching....

Hmm, I think the British were working off the same page. On more than one occasion I found lightbulbs that were used to complete a circuit. Everytime I had to work on that thing, I felt as though I'd been transported into some sort of backward Bizzaro World

[2006schoolbusyellow250R]

Sevulturus, I already have won. Now get over it man.

In case you all forgot, I have a Ninja 250R!

Those of you who think you know everything are a great annoyance to those of us that do.

And you are an even GREATER annoyance to me, because you think you know it all.

You are not to determine what you THINK I know, just as I cannot do the same for you. I don't know it all, but my experience is what determines what I think, what I say, what I do, and it also determines my opinions.

Again, I say: get over it.

We all have differing opinions.

That is why this is called "Total Motorcycle Forums", not "Harley Motorcycle Forums", or "Sportbike Motorcycle Forums", etc.

Variety is the spice of life, you act as if it is garlic to a vampire. You need to expand your horizons, IMHO (Disclaimer there...).

Just accept that others are not your carbon copy and you might actually find life more fulfilling. Might want to try that there, just some advice from someone who knows "nothing" about bikes, because he does not ride an Italian bike, "only" a lowly 250cc, and cannot afford anything bigger right now.

My seven years of riding and 16+ years experience with all types of bikes (Inside and out) means nothing, after all. My having less than 6,000 posts means I absolutely MUST be some noob, I mean, it's not like I was riding bikes before I joined this forum, right? Give me a break! Did I miss anything there, buddy?

[bikeguy joe]

Sevulturus, I already have won. Now get over it man.

In case you all forgot, I have a Ninja 250R!

Those of you who think you know everything are a great annoyance to those of us that do.

And you are an even GREATER annoyance to me, because you think you know it all.

You are not to determine what you THINK I know, just as I cannot do the same for you. I don't know it all, but my experience is what determines what I think, what I say, what I do, and it also determines my opinions.

Again, I say: get over it.

We all have differing opinions.

That is why this is called "Total Motorcycle Forums", not "Harley Motorcycle Forums", or "Sportbike Motorcycle Forums", etc.

Variety is the spice of life, you act as if it is garlic to a vampire. You need to expand your horizons, IMHO (Disclaimer there...).

Just accept that others are not your carbon copy and you might actually find life more fulfilling. Might want to try that there, just some advice from someone who knows "nothing" about bikes, because he does not ride an Italian bike, "only" a lowly 250cc, and cannot afford anything bigger right now.

My seven years of riding and 16+ years experience with all types of bikes (Inside and out) means nothing, after all. My having less than 6,000 posts means I absolutely MUST be some noob, I mean, it's not like I was riding bikes before I joined this forum, right? Give me a break! Did I miss anything there, buddy?

Geeze, "point" made, give it a break will ya'?