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Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 6:48 am**

Dude you need to get a thicker skin and you'll need it when you ride you bicycle in traffic lanes and some 17 year old kid in 4 x 4 comes along and flattens you like well...a DORITO! because you wanna be macho and arrogant rather than sensible and prudent.

So when that 17-year-old kid in the 4x4 comes along, do you think you're going to fair much better on your motorcycle than I am on my bicycle?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 6:53 am**

Nope not at all. I'd be squashed too. But my vehicle IS suppose to be in traffic lanes. Yours insn't. You have a bike lane, use it.

XM23 wrote:
Dude you need to get a thicker skin and you'll need it when you ride you bicycle in traffic lanes and some 17 year old kid in 4 x 4 comes along and flattens you like well...a DORITO! because you wanna be macho and arrogant rather than sensible and prudent.
So when that 17-year-old kid in the 4x4 comes along, do you think you're going to fair much better on your motorcycle than I am on my bicycle?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 6:58 am**

You are being a bit narrow, 'hole. Yeah, I know who you are talking about... but you don't know who these other people are talking about. There are plenty of skilled cyclists who must and do ride WHERE THEY ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO RIDE... which is the street like every other wheeled vehicle.

The attitude you are expressing is exactly the attitude that gets pickup trucks tailgating motorcycles "to scare them off using our roads."

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:10 am**

Well I was hoping not to do that but if I have then sorry. My understanding of the rules of the road is that if you can't make speed limit or keep up with the flow of traffic, you have no business being on it. So lemme ask you this. Where do you tell your children to ride their bikes? And Why?

dieziege wrote:You are being a bit narrow, 'hole. Yeah, I know who you are talking about... but you don't know who these other people are talking about. There are plenty of skilled cyclists who must and do ride WHERE THEY ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO RIDE... which is the street like every other wheeled vehicle.

The attitude you are expressing is exactly the attitude that gets pickup trucks tailgating motorcycles "to scare them off using our roads."

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:18 am**

But my vehicle IS suppose to be in traffic lanes. Yours insn't.

According to the California DMV you're wrong:

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21200.   (a) Every person riding a bicycle upon a highway has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this division, including, but not limited to, provisions concerning driving under the influence of alcoholic beverages or drugs, and by Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000), Section 27400, Division 16.7 (commencing with Section 39000), Division 17 (commencing with Section 40000.1), and Division 18 (commencing with Section 42000), except those provisions which by their very nature can have no application.

According to California law, bicycles have every right to use traffic lanes just like other vehicles do.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:21 am**

I stand corrected. What does it say about impeding traffic?

XM23 wrote:

But my vehicle IS suppose to be in traffic lanes. Yours insn't.

According to the California DMV you're wrong:

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21200.   (a) Every person riding a bicycle upon a highway has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this division, including, but not limited to, provisions concerning driving under the influence of alcoholic beverages or drugs, and by Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000), Section 27400, Division 16.7 (commencing with Section 39000), Division 17 (commencing with Section 40000.1), and Division 18 (commencing with Section 42000), except those provisions which by their very nature can have no application.

According to California law, bicycles have every right to use traffic lanes just like other vehicles do.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:26 am**

Please read carefully section A

Operation on Roadway

21202. (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:

(1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.

(2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge, subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.

(4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.

(b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway, which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of that roadway as practicable.

Amended Sec. 4, Ch. 674, Stats. 1996. Effective January 1, 1997.

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Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:27 am**

basshole wrote:My understanding of the rules of the road is that if you can't make speed limit or keep up with the flow of traffic, you have no business being on it

you are once again, simply wrong. and you are not in the minority, most people are just as uneducated about this subject as you are. The bad part is when these people then take it upon themselves to "educate" others using thier own missinformation. The irony in this is that by your own lack of information, you are actually the one creating a dangerous situation.

btw, i wouldnt let my kid ride a bike on the street, or ride a motorcycle, because he's a kid. what the hell does that have to do with anything?

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:29 am**

basshole wrote:Please read carefully section A

Operation on Roadway

21202. (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:

of course the bike is supposed to stay to the right. As has been mentioned numeroous times, no one is argueing that. You keep lumping all bicyclists together with the ones who ride in packs and dont know how to travel on the road as they should.
All we're saying is that as long as we follow the rules (just like you) we have every right to be there.

Posted: **Thu May 11, 2006 7:34 am**

Please view the post one up from this on where bicycles are suppose to ride on the road. And I'm not wrong now that I read the law. And don't you expect your children to follow by example or is it do as I say not as I do? My whole point I'm trying to make is this. The roads are dangerous. The bigger the vehicle the safer you generally are and the smaller and less protected the vehicle the higher the risk. Common sense tell you that if I'm not big enough or fast enough to compete with traffic on the raod, may safest place is as far away from high speed traffic as possible.

-Holiday wrote:
basshole wrote:My understanding of the rules of the road is that if you can't make speed limit or keep up with the flow of traffic, you have no business being on it
you are once again, simply wrong. and you are not in the minority, most people are just as uneducated about this subject as you are. The bad part is when these people then take it upon themselves to "educate" others using thier own missinformation. The irony in this is that by your own lack of information, you are actually the one creating a dangerous situation.

btw, i wouldnt let my kid ride a bike on the street, or ride a motorcycle, because he's a kid. what the hell does that have to do with anything?

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