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Nalian wrote:If cycles are being shortened, than fix that. But every @#*(#&@ who runs a red light deserves more than just a ticket.

I'd rather have a speed camera than a real traffic cop give me a ticket. I've had a state trooper in another state literally decide he didn't like my bumper sticker so he searched my whole vehicle. For going 2 miles over the speed limit. A ticket I would have been unhappy about but paid - but he kept me on the side of the highway for 35 minutes while he tossed my car. Didn't find anything so I was fine - but it made me very late and certainly pissed me off.

..and people still wonder why I hate driving through PA. Bleh.

Just for the record everyone, pigs like the one who hassled that guy is why I had that knee-jerk reaction to the good cop's death.
Corrupt tempermental cops should be thrown onto the street.

MrGompers wrote:General rule to follow here. If the police ask to search your car they don't have probable cause. Thats why they are asking they want you to give them permission. Flat out refuse these requests everytime.

If they come back and say something like "I can get a warrant" you say "go ahead I'll wait"

No judge is going to sign off on that. Especially, if its at nite.

Absolutely. However at the time (it was around 1:30) I finally just got sick of it and told him to have at it. I was 6 hours away from where I was going and about 6 hours away from my home state. I filed a complaint after the fact, but that didn't go very far.

Bumper stickers are a problem.

Police for a while argued that the presence of NRA stickers WAS probable cause for pulling someone over... that was in Garland TX. The courts ruled it wasn't, but fat lot of good it did the innocent people who were stopped and searched.

I've also heard it is very common for the California Highway Patrol to stop cars with Arizona plates + gun manufacturer stickers, because California has stricter laws regarding the transportation of firearms and people in Arizona often don't know to follow the California Law when they travel.

Personally, I think it is just foolishness. If a cop will make the connection between stickers and you possessing something, so will other criminals... which means your car will be broken into and searched by all sorts of people who think they can gain something off you. So leave the stickers off. If you want to make a political statement, use spray paint.

It was an HRC sticker. They only tend to rile up the good ol' boys, and if thats what it does..so be it. Thats why I prefer a speed camera to an "O Ring" behind a radar gun.

HRC, NRA, ACLU... it's all the same. People in power always feel threatened by civil rights organizations. It's the nature of the game.

If there is one thing we SHOULD use cameras for it's SEVERELY ticketing rubberneckers.

They should set a camera up at the scene of every accident, and people caught slowing down to look (every last one of them) should be issued $500 tickets.

To chime in again. ANY bumper sticker is a problem. Even something innocent like a Red Sox sticker. What if the cop is a Yankess fan ?

< I Fly > wrote:If there is one thing we SHOULD use cameras for it's SEVERELY ticketing rubberneckers.

They should set a camera up at the scene of every accident, and people caught slowing down to look (every last one of them) should be issued $500 tickets.

I slow down every time I go past an accident because there are usually cops and other emergency workers walking around the area. I'd like to make sure I'm not the jackass to run one of them over.

The problem is when a driver is so busy gawking at the accident that the don't notice the rest of traffic is slowing down. Then you have two accidents in one area.

CNF2002 wrote:The ones I've seen only snap a photo when it detects a violation. Its not a full-time video camera that I'm aware of.

We have constant use digital cameras. They work in tandam, averaging your speed over distance.

The same camera technology has been used in London for the congestion charges and is now to be trialed elsewhere in the UK.

A large number of our major roads are too have APNR cameras in the coming year tracking vehicle movements. Records of the movements are to be kept for between 6 months and 6 years. No one knows who will be keeping these records, in London the congestion charges data is held by a private company.

Future developments are to include on board black boxes to record a vehicles activities.

Speed cameras are the thin edge of the wedge, sadly the trend is not going to be reversed as anyone standing up to this will face the arguement that it is all done with public safety in mind.

Oh and the fastest growing crime in the UK? Vehicle identity theft because if you cant prove beyond doubt that it is not your vehicle in the picture (and there have been cases where people have owned a completely different vehicle to the one 'caught') you will be liable.

dieziege wrote:
I've also heard it is very common for the California Highway Patrol to stop cars with Arizona plates + gun manufacturer stickers, because California has stricter laws regarding the transportation of firearms and people in Arizona often don't know to follow the California Law when they travel.

Nope, no just cause to pull over, and no reason to search, if they did, the person could have it all thrown out and get em in deep "poo poo". Pulling someone over because their states laws are different and they may not know isnt how it works


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