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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:42 pm
by intotherain
Also, coming to a stop at stop signs give you good clutch practice!
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:58 pm
by Fast Eddy B
Kal wrote:Going to disagree with you here Eddy.
Rolling stops are fine at Giveways as long as there is nothing that has right of way over you but at the much rarer STOP junctions we have to stop properly.
for it.
It actually sounds like you agree with me, but also clarified my lack of detail.
In most cases I stand by my original point of a block shift, with a tap and go. Not ALWAYS, but it's my preferred way in MOST circumstances. How can anybody disagree with that? (flame-bait)
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:05 pm
by Kal
I'll think about it and get back to you on the disagreeing with you (it's real quiet here at the moment)
I do agree with you about junctions which are give way, it's specifically the STOP junctions that I was picking up on.
The US dosn't seem to have giveway junctions, apart from some weird left turn rule (?) and instead every junction seems to be the equivilant of a STOP junction.
I rolled through several clear giveways on my test without a problem (in fact stopping unnecessarily when the road is clear would give rise to a 'hesitation' fault and possible test failure)
However the couple of STOP junctions I came across were standstill-foot down stops.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:28 pm
by flynrider
Kal wrote:
The US dosn't seem to have giveway junctions, apart from some weird left turn rule (?) and instead every junction seems to be the equivilant of a STOP junction.
Being that there may be some differences in terminology (due to our common language
), I think I know what you're saying.
To clarify, in the U.S. you are not required to come to a full and complete stop at every intersection (junction?). Only those that have a red, octagonal stop sign, or red traffic light. In other cases, you must yield the right of way if applicable (giveway junction?).
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:42 pm
by Mintbread
CajunBass wrote:
Those of you who say you ride a bike differently than you drive your car. Why? The same laws apply. I ride and drive the same way.
Screw the laws.
If I rode a bike like I drove a car I would be dead several times over.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:05 pm
by ofblong
Mintbread wrote:CajunBass wrote:
Those of you who say you ride a bike differently than you drive your car. Why? The same laws apply. I ride and drive the same way.
Screw the laws.
If I rode a bike like I drove a car I would be dead several times over.
+1 much better way to put it than I did
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:46 am
by intotherain
Also, I dont know why, but cops are VERY stingy about motorcyclists rolling stop signs. (where I live atleast they are) Ok so Ill tell you a story. I have never seen a cop in my neighborhood or anywhere near it. there is this stopsign in the middle of nowhere, but instead of fully stopping, I just looked to see that there was no one on the straight 5 mile patch of road on either side.. so i just went. 10 seconds later, a cop in a ditch a little ways away comes and pulls me over.
He pulled me over and checked did the usual checking. I took off my helmet and I think he was surprised I was so young. He said that he needs to give me a B.A.C test.. so I complied and I was of course negative. He gave me a warning to stop at all stop signs or else I could get a fine (174.60 I believe)
yep
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:32 am
by Kal
Because its the law Doohun. Even though some of them let the small stuff slide (like workers everywhere) at the end of the day they are paid to uphold the law.
STOP signs, if they are anything like the ones in the UK are placed where they are for safety reasons, so by pulling you for it the Officer is probably hoping that he is preventing you from having a nasty smash in the future.
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:25 pm
by Wrider
A lot of stop signs are not there for any particular reason other than to make sure people look where they are going. And here in Colorado, it is mandatory that everyone stops at every stop sign, full, complete, both feet on the ground, etc. I usually put both feet down and come to a stop, but if I'm either being tailgated or followed by an inattentive driver, I keep one foot up, scrape the ground with the other, and brake until I have to go again. I wish we didn't have to stop all the way every time, as there are two signs just getting out of my neighborhood, less than 1/8th mile.
Wrider