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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:45 am
by VermilionX
Wrider wrote:Well, after viewing that clip, I know a couple of methods that can be used, but not safely for everyone else that rides that road. I do however vote for some cops sitting on the faster corners, with radar guns, and one or two guys with a flatbed at the other end, picking up the ones doing grossly over the limit, such as 20+ over the PSL, and giving out tickets to the others. Before I get flamed for the tickets to everyone, let me say that yeah, I guarantee I'd get a ticket for going 5-10 over, but in no way shape or form would I EVER pass someone on a blind corner going that fast, I'm just not stupid/suicidal...
Wrider
it's all relative.

on a 10mph PSL turn at +20 is a big deal.

on a 45mph PSL turn at +20 is not a big deal.

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:53 am
by jstark47
ZooTech wrote:Posing questions, but offering no answers, Pam? Are you trying to come across as the insightful professor eliciting thought in her students, or just drawing attention to yourself and your expert grasp of motorcycling despite your "disability" (i.e. being a woman) as usual?
Zoo- there's at least two discussion-worthy topics here: 1) the actions of some motorcyclists which place anyone sharing the road (including other motorcyclists) at risk, and 2) the possibly biased news reporting.

Is your problem that we're discussing it, or is your problem that Pam initiated the discussion? If I (for example) had been the one to start the thread, would you object also?

Did someone appoint you the judge over what can and can't be discussed here?

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:54 am
by Wrider
The Crimson Rider® wrote: it's all relative.

on a 10mph PSL turn at +20 is a big deal.

on a 45mph PSL turn at +20 is not a big deal.
Granted, however it's still 20 over the PSL. I'm not saying I've never done that, I have, (I have top speed tested every vehicle I've ever had the chance to so far.) It's just that when there are so many idiots out there doing more than 20 over, then it needs to be severely enforced for a while, to make them back down. Then they'll loosen up a bit. I know it's not practical at all, but I wish that some days the roads would be closed for a couple of hours and the bikers that wanted to ride fast could do so legally... that would solve a lot of the problems facing them right now.
Wrider

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:58 am
by NorthernPete
Pop up ramps that spring up in front of you if your doing 15 over the limit....thatd slow people down...and make for good TV

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:00 am
by Lion_Lady
Wrider wrote:[I know it's not practical at all, but I wish that some days the roads would be closed for a couple of hours and the bikers that wanted to ride fast could do so legally... that would solve a lot of the problems facing them right now.
Wrider
I was thinking the same thing.

P

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:27 am
by Lion_Lady
ZooTech wrote:
Lion_Lady wrote:What SHOULD be done? What CAN be done?
Lion_Lady wrote:"How do we catch them without putting more people at risk?"
Posing questions, but offering no answers, Pam? Are you trying to come across as the insightful professor eliciting thought in her students, or just drawing attention to yourself and your expert grasp of motorcycling despite your "disability" (i.e. being a woman) as usual?
Feeling your manhood threatened, Zoo?

I knew the discussion would be lively and varied here. I'm no expert, I wish I could solve the problem. But obviously not everyone here views the issue in the same way. It is interesting to see what folks think about such a hot topic. I don't think there is a simple answer.

P

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:40 am
by Aggroton
The Crimson Rider® wrote:
CNF2002 wrote:
If you really want to battle this on a technicality...when you are going fast in the canyon, guess who you are racing? Yourself!
im sorry... that really doesn't count as racing.
verm...check this out...maybe it will change your mind...


http://www.blackjoe.com/phpBB2/viewtopi ... highlight=

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:03 am
by Chris8187
I've watched that before, and it is extremely slanted against sportbike riders. The part where they had cars and cruiser going under the speed limit, but they show sport bikes going 60 in a 45 zone and act like they are crazy is a big example of anti-sportbike agenda. Cars and trucks speed all the time, yet they act like only sportbikes are the ones speeding.

I love the part where the cameraman is zoomed in on the speed limit sign and than tries to catch the sportbike rider on camera but can barely get him on tape. The reporter than says, "that rider was going SO FAST he was barely caught on camera." NO "poo poo", the camera was zoomed in buddy. 10 over the speed limit is excessive..... :laughing: that is a funny one.

Accidents happen ALL the time EVERY day. To make a big deal out of this area is ridiculous. It is certainly not national television news worthy. I love the 911 call where the lady is like, "omg a motorcycle passed me and he was going fast. someone please do something, blah blah blah...."

Edit- I know it sounds harsh, but I'm tired of the unbearable safety consciousness that some people have. Example is the thread where some guy does a burnout in his driveway. Why is that so bad and who cares.

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:31 am
by jonnythan
Chris8187 wrote:I've watched that before, and it is extremely slanted against sportbike riders. The part where they had cars and cruiser going under the speed limit, but they show sport bikes going 60 in a 45 zone and act like they are crazy is a big example of anti-sportbike agenda. Cars and trucks speed all the time, yet they act like only sportbikes are the ones speeding.
I bet they are the only ones going 100+ mph, and I'll bet they are responsible for a disproportionately large number of the accidents.
Chris8187 wrote:t is certainly not national television news worthy.
You're right. Good thing it was on a local news broadcast.

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:09 am
by ZooTech
jstark47 wrote:Did someone appoint you the judge over what can and can't be discussed here?
Not at all. Talk about whatever. But you're obviously oblivious to what I'm referring to, so perhaps you should sit this one out.
Lion_Lady wrote:Feeling your manhood threatened, Zoo?
Hardly. I'm not the one who goes out of my way to remind the forum of my gender as though it's an obstacle that I've overcome. Your posts always relate to one of two things: riding motorcycles despite all the stereotypes (that may or may not exist) about women, or how you're in a different league all together because of the bike you bought or some school you attended. As for the former, I think you do women a great disservice by actually reinforcing these perceived weaknesses by acting like a toddler going poopie on the potty for the first time every time you ride your bike more than 100 miles or learn to change a spark plug. And the latter, well, you pretend to be unaware when you make elitist remarks, but you continue to make them so I doubt they're by accident.

How does this relate to this thread you ask? You live in Maryland. This road is in Georgia. It's not your cross to bear in the first place, and everyone knows that news folks like to sensationalize everything, this being no exception. So, the very title of the thread was a dead giveaway for your motives, and a closer look at the post itself and your lack of actual insight towards the "problem" is further reinforcement. I can't help it if no one else is astute enough to see it, but you've proven time and time again why you come here instead of being exclusive to the Beemer forums so you're relatively transparent in my eyes.