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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:41 am
by Jadien
Carbonfiberjunky wrote:I bought an R6 for my first bike, and can't find anything wrong with that course of action. I don't have enough money to keep buying bikes till I get the one I wan't..So I just bought the one I wanted. I think that it was actually better this way. And this is why. When first I rode this bike I was terrified of the insane amount of horsepower. because of this, I was very careful and extremely respectful of what could happen to me should I get a little overzealous with the throttle. It's important to remeber that any bike you get will go plenty fast enough to kill you, so I believe that the theory of buying a smaller bike will make you safer is bunk. If you ride responsibly then you will have the same result regardless of the amount of horsepower your sitting on top of. I also found that as I learned more about riding(took the msf course and read several differnt books)I was able to apply it a little at a time on a machine that I was steadily becoming more used to.Of course nothing is as good as actual riding, but you'd be suprised how much you can learn about how to ride from a book, I would suggest a book called A twist of the wrist.It will really help you understand the physics of riding, cornering, braking, suspension, ther's a lot of stuff going on all at once, and all very closely related. Now I still have the bike I wan't and I'm moderatly proficient at riding That bike. they don't all feel the same, I"ve ridden a few other street bikes, some dirtbikes, a sport/touring bike or 2, and they are all quite different. What I found was that my bike handles better then all the other bikes I've ridden(I'm sure at least partialy due to the fact that I'm used to it), It's also important to keep in mind that the majority of people on this board don't ride sport bikes, so your not excatly getting and unbiased opinion.I'm sure most of them don't agree with my theory, but perhpas my expierience thus far will help you with your decision.
I hope you're wearing something flame-retardant (sp?)...... Because people are about to let loose on you.....

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:00 am
by flynrider
Carbonfiberjunky wrote:And this is why. When first I rode this bike I was terrified of the insane amount of horsepower. because of this, I was very careful and extremely respectful of what could happen to me should I get a little overzealous with the throttle.
Being careful and respectful of the power isn't really the point. The point is that common noob mistakes (with the throttle or the brakes) can turn out much worse on a high powered sportbike. Loss of control is a greater possibility. Although you seem to have dodged that bullet, I've seen dozens of others over the years that haven't.

Personally, I don't care if one learns on a 'busa. If they ask me, though, I try to give them enough info so they can make an informed judgement of the risks. There's more to it than just vowing to be careful.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:07 pm
by Carbonfiberjunky
Being careful and respectful of the power isn't really the point. The point is that common noob mistakes (with the throttle or the brakes) can turn out much worse on a high powered sportbike. Loss of control is a greater possibility. Although you seem to have dodged that bullet, I've seen dozens of others over the years that haven't
I agree that this can in fact be the case,just the slightest movement of my throttle causes and instant effect. Also remember that just because someone can buy a motorcycle doesn't mean they should.Not everyone has the coordination required. I really don't believe I was ever worried about the actual operation of the controls (brakes,throttle,clutch), that particular part of it doesn't really seem to be so complex.That's not to say that I couldn't improve these skills. I believe your in much more danger from all the fools surrounding you. In fact I am still afraid of everyone else on the road..lol.I guess what I'm saying is that there are a lot of mechanicly inept peole out there that can't seem to operate a car properly, these particular people should not own motorcycles. And if your not one of those people, buy what you want and look out for the other guy.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:46 pm
by badinfluence63
carbonfiberjunky,

Pretty much what flynrider said. I would like to add that there are always acceptions to every rule. Every now and then somebody's gene pool kicks out a motorcycle natural. However most should proceed with caution (as motorcycles are very unforgiving, compared to a car with good things go bad) and start with a low and mangeable cc bke until they can template the processes to there subconscious.

I hope you don't feel flamed and Jadien thanks for drawing attention to that so it wouldn't happen. It easily gets done on forums and carbonfiberjunky should be entitled to his opinion w/out getting flamed. Especially when he was polite and eloquent in his delivery.

Re: What do you think of my plan?

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:27 am
by Bravehearted
shane-o wrote:
Bravehearted wrote:I am currently a senior in college and I'm now taking the MSF coarse. A friend of mine has a sv650 and will take me to a secluded area on the weekends to practice different skills. My plan is to buy a suzuki gsxr 600 after graduation in may. I also plan to take the MSF coarse again in the spring as a refresher. This would give me at least five or so months to I am thinking that with the practice and lessons I will get from my buddy, I will be fine getting this bike as long as I have a clear mind. I am very responsible and I am sure that I will have the right mind set.

I have researched the topic of whether the 600 is a good starter bike and I know that it for the most part is not. However this also depends largely on the responsibility of the new rider. I am wondering what you all think about my plan?

people like you make me laugh, just go buy the bike.

but if you think a couple of spins on ya mates sv qualifies you as somewhat experienced, or even the fact that you take a course that it is conducted in a controlled evironment, then im afraid a very expensive and possibly deadly scenario awaits you no matter what bike ya pick.

but your not alone, there are plenty of clueless guys out there that are willing to sacrifice themselves, and make the rest of us look bad, because they think as you do, quantity over quality ;)


go for it
Dude did you even read the rest of the f***ing thread? I have already heeded the advice of everyone here. Jesus, you all sure know how to beat a dead horse and put people down at the same damn time. How about getting your head out of your a** next time.

Sorry to the mods, but as you can clearly see, I have changed my position in this thread and I have clearly stated it several times and people continue to make stupid comments without reading....

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:17 am
by scan
Yeah, this is one of the bad parts of a discussion board. People don't always read the whole thread and respond to bits and pieces.

I'm going to lock this down, but it was acually a good thread over-all.