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Ducky wrote:

Your instructor told you not to practice figure 8s and U-turns on the bike, but thinks it's OK for you to ride on the highway

Ever riden a sportbike? The only one ive riden is a 2000 Ducati 748. I'm no expert..but I can tell you that the turning arc on the steering is NOWHERE close to that of the 250cc we learned on. I think he made an EXCELLENT point. As he said, my bike is a trackbike and set up to lean through turns.

You brought up highway riding ...as if that represent a serious difficulty to riders...Highway riding is one of the EASIER things to master, as long as you're vigilant. Its the slow, throttle/brake dependent maneuvers that are tough. Its where the bike's weight plays against the rider. Just my view on it taken from my 6 weeks of riding. I think you're dead wrong on both points. Dont think he'll be losing his job anytime soon sir.

Ducky

look mate


what the others are collectively saying is "your fookin stoopid" and further more, you should have a bucket permanently strapped under your chin to catch the sh.it that continues to dribble out ya mouth.






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Ducky wrote: Ever riden a sportbike? The only one ive riden is a 2000 Ducati 748. I'm no expert..but I can tell you that the turning arc on the steering is NOWHERE close to that of the 250cc we learned on. I think he made an EXCELLENT point. As he said, my bike is a trackbike and set up to lean through turns.

So, when does he expect you to learn to handle your bike at low speed? Clue: That's one of the first things you should do before venturing out on the roads. If you can't handle a bike at low speeds, you shouldn't be riding it on the street.

I can't figure out what your last sentence is supposed to mean. All bikes are set up to lean through turns. If you're trying to say that the bars do not turn enough to accomplish figure 8s and U-turns, then you're doing it wrong or your steering is broken.

And, yes, since you asked, I have ridden sportbikes, both on the street and on the track. My impression is that your instructor is either a doofus, or you are not understanding him correctly.

It"s called thinning the heard.

Strap it on gas it and go dude, what the heck....you're gonna live for ever!

never mind that Pete Conrad survived walking on the moon, 3 other trips into space, and flying high performance experimental aircraft for most of his life and then got killed in a motorcycle accident at the age of 68.

Ducky wrote: I've been by to see him while he was teaching another set of students and he LOVES my bike. He warned me not to practice figure 8s and u-turns in a confined area on a bike like mine for several months because he didnt want to see me drop it.

Moto? That you MotoF150?

If any of you believe this guy, Ducky, or his instructor, you are stupid. If you can't U-turn your bike, it's the wrong bike. Get a clue. I thought you were hardcore.

Fast Eddy B wrote:

Ducky wrote: I've been by to see him while he was teaching another set of students and he LOVES my bike. He warned me not to practice figure 8s and u-turns in a confined area on a bike like mine for several months because he didnt want to see me drop it.

Moto? That you MotoF150?

If any of you believe this guy, Ducky, or his instructor, you are stupid. If you can't U-turn your bike, it's the wrong bike. Get a clue. I thought you were hardcore.

LOL I almost forgot about that guy!

i have made the same mistake and bought a kawasaki zr7s as my first bike but i choose to listen to the more experinced drivers and put it up for sell ty

Ducky wrote:

Your instructor told you not to practice figure 8s and U-turns on the bike, but thinks it's OK for you to ride on the highway

Ever riden a sportbike? The only one ive riden is a 2000 Ducati 748. I'm no expert..but I can tell you that the turning arc on the steering is NOWHERE close to that of the 250cc we learned on. I think he made an EXCELLENT point. As he said, my bike is a trackbike and set up to lean through turns.

You brought up highway riding ...as if that represent a serious difficulty to riders...Highway riding is one of the EASIER things to master, as long as you're vigilant. Its the slow, throttle/brake dependent maneuvers that are tough. Its where the bike's weight plays against the rider. Just my view on it taken from my 6 weeks of riding. I think you're dead wrong on both points. Dont think he'll be losing his job anytime soon sir.

Ducky

WHAAAAAT? He told you not to practice a u-turn or figure 8 because you might drop it!!???? That is the stupidest thing I have EVER heard. Ever... ever ever ever... I'm almost stuck saying that word for the rest of my post.

Now, before you accuse me of not riding sportbikes, I've owned a ducati. I've also ridden an R6, triumph daytona, among other smaller supersports. I also owned 2 VFRs, a 79 KZ650, currently own a 03 Z1000, and I started on a 250cc cruiser. I could u-turn and figure 8 all of them within the MSF course required box.

U-turns and figure 8s should be able to be done on ANY bike. That should be a requirement before you take your bike on the road. I could turn my Ducati in a 1 lane u-turn. Hell, I can u-turn my dad's 900 lb cruiser without a problem (and it is like 8 feet long). You should have stayed in a parking lot on your bike until you are able to do all of those things. I think the advice he gave you is absolutely terrible.

Granted, your bike is a "track bike", I don't see what that has to do with being able to do slow speed maneuvers.. sure, it puts more strain on your wrist than an upright bike, but those are critical situations. When you are at intersections, in parkinglots, in neighborhoods, etc. You need to be able to avoid accidents and not drop your bike in an intersection.

I've ridden track bikes, you want to know the difference between a track bike and a normal bike? You ride it at the track (and tape up the glass bits). There is no excuse for that gross lack of skills while riding on the road.

And no shiat "Its the slow, throttle/brake dependent maneuvers that are tough", that is why you start on a smaller, lighter bike. So you can get those skills! Any moron can go fast in a straight line. Some morons can even go fast in only a semi-straight line.

Holy crap that is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard...

At least his choose an apt nickname, Ducky.....just wonder how long it will be till it become Dead Ducky or Roasted Ducky......no long I'd imagine.


Ducky, you came here looking for validation for what is arguably a stupid move on your part and on the part of your "instructor" and when you didn't get it, you got your knickers in twist and have been squirming as if you got a major case of road-rash on your arse.

Thing is Ducky, those that have being trying to give you good advise are not trying to put you down, but rather they are trying to ensure you don't become a gory statistic.

We have all types of riders here, sport bike riders, standard bike riders such as myself, dual-sport riders, cruisers and even Harley riders. Some like you are complete newbies, others are retreads just entering back in the game, and other have years of experience. We have weekend warriors here, guys and gals who ride year round everyday they can, we have professional racers, instructors and even a motorcycle cop or two lurking about. We have riders who are short in years but long in experience. Collectively, we must have a good thousand of years of riding experience here, all for the most part telling you that you have made a bad mistake and gotten some very bad advice from someone who should of known better, that or you misinterpreted what he said.

And you answer is to basically dodo all over them. Well Ducky, I am glad you live on the other side of the North America, coz I sure don't want to be sharing the same roads as you. Hate to meet you as you come around a blind corner at 30 mph over the posted speed limit and in the wrong lane.

To be honest, in a way I do hope that something frightening happens to you while riding, something not fatal nor injury causing, but enough to scare the living dodo out of you and some common sense into you. Sometime that is what is required for some people, sad though it may be.

Nicely said, ceemes.