Hiya Noodle
noodlenoggin wrote: So similar...so different...
So true! And in many ways, so poignant! It is very easy to over-emphasise differences because they are the things that come at you and so easy to miss the similarities because they sit quietly in the background. I’m learning that all the time – on TMW as much as anywhere else.
Mind you, dwelling on differences is a lot more fun. So to pick up on a conversation we were having last year...
I guess one of the big differences between your side of the pond and ours is that Brits really don’t believe in ‘progress’ the way that Americans seem to. (We used to, but that was a hundred years ago and we have all grown wiser since then – or so we like to believe.) Don’t get me wrong - we are all utterly obsessed with microchips, just like you are; it is just that we don’t expect them to propel us into a Brave New World where all problems will be solved, all diseases conquered and all foes vanquished. We like old stuff because it’s been around a long time and it makes us feel secure.
The upshot of this is that we have a lower (more realistic – in our view) expectation of technology. For instance, we don’t expect things to work – and, as a result, generally they don’t. (Why bother to mend things when you know they will only go wrong again?) Instead, we believe in what used to be called ‘acts of god.’ But if it becomes clear that some bad thing was actually preventable, we can always have a public enquiry and blame it on someone else. That way, we can all carry on as before. (Don’t knock it. It’s a very sustainable ideology.)
And what goes for technology goes for us too. We don’t imagine that we are ever going to become perfect human beings, or live radiantly happy lives. We don’t really believe in personal fulfilment. Above all, we don’t believe in Oprah. The fact is, we just don’t like ourselves the way Oprah tells us we ought to, and that’s OK, because if we liked ourselves that much we’d end up sounding like Americans and that would be just too embarrassing (

).
Another big, difference is that we don’t believe in the ‘individual’ (a gloriously nutty concept only possible in the land of pastrami on rye.) Over here, we have things called queues. We do things in an orderly and sociable way and have a more collective approach to most matters. You can’t be all out for number one without doing someone else down and that is just not acceptable here in the land of the underdog. It’s much better to be apologetic about success. We are very zen about this. We have ways of boasting and showing off which convince people we are really being very modest. We are a cunning lot.
But there is an even more important difference between our two cultures than any of these things: without exception, over here we believe we are all going to die. That’s an idea which appears, somehow, to be very un-American.
All I can say is: good luck guys! And, for those who believe in the afterlife - we’ll be waiting.
Having said all that, you have to understand that this is a British middle class perspective. You can’t generalise about anything in the UK without taking class into consideration. In British middle class eyes, there is one and only one thing that is more embarrassing than Americans (especially fat Americans in Hawaiian shirts delivering their opinions loudly to all and sundry on Westminister Bridge)... yep, there's only one thing more embarrasing than this to the British middle class, and that is the British working class and their thoroughly outrageous habits... Heh! Heh!
noodlenoggin wrote: ..until I reach the background of the picture, and there sits an undoubtedly ancient, undeniably Old World house.
Ah! an opportunity to be nerdy! As to the house, your instinct is right. It is ancient. We know the exact date it was first built – 1351. Most of what you can see in the photo is not really that old (the facade was remodelled in 1770) but some parts of the visible structure (round to the side) go back to the fourteen hundreds. It was originally constructed as part of a religious community.
"In 1317 the king granted to the Carmelite Friars in frankalmoign a messuage in the parish of Hitchin that they might build a church and house there for their habitation. Other messuages and lands were given to this order by John de Cobham. They built a small convent there which they dedicated to the Blessed Mary…"
From: 'Hitchin: Priory church and charities', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 12-21.
It is now owned by an insurance company. A sign of the times.
Nibblet99 wrote:Blast.....
I thought about heading down the the Ace last night too, as the weather was nice. Oh well, that's life I guess.
Did it get very busy? Looks pretty desolate in the photo's.
Hi Nibblers
No, there wasn't much going on that night. The club livened it up a bit while they where there (as they have a habit of doing wherever they go) but most of them had already left for South Mimms services by the time I took this pic.
blues2cruise wrote:Thanks for sharing all those pics.

You are very welcome blues. My pleasure.
[edit - Now isn't that a ridicuslously British thing to say?]
blues, you are welcome.