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I can relate Yngvai.

Had the same problems too but at least I got used to the instructor's bike FZ (at least on flat ground, on the incline it's another story)

The kicker is I'll have to re-learn it on my own bike as all bikes have different FZ's

ok so i JUST came in from testing the friction point, and as someone said a few post's ago he said something about letting the clutch out slowly and it will move on its own. yeah i figured that out, to bad i never knew about that before all this.. but anyways so now that i found how to do the friction point and everything.. do i just want to not give it any throttle say if im at a light? just do the friction zone thing and let it start off slow THEN add throttle to get up to speed and shifting, ect. ect?

ZooTech wrote:

The Crimson Rider® wrote:are you trying to do launches?

Don't make me send you an e-smack, Verm...

You're the only one here concerned with "launching" your bike anywhere.

+1. the guys a new rider asking about getting going, why would he be launching his bike?



JWF

just do the friction zone thing and let it start off slow THEN add throttle to get up to speed and shifting, ect. ect?

That would work, yes. Eventually you'll be doing the two simultaneously.

All the friction point is where the collar and the drive gear starts to mesh together. This is when its getting the very minimum part of the available power from the engine. The gear is rotating based on the friction with the gear and is probably not even meshed up correctly at this point. Which is why it's called the friction zone.

If you let out the clutch without hitting the throttle, then the engine won't have enough RPMs to keep up and will choke and die. So when you get to the friction zone, apply a bit of throttle, let the clutch out slowly, and you're on your way.


A lot to think about at first, which is why God invented parking lots.

Shiv wrote:

just do the friction zone thing and let it start off slow THEN add throttle to get up to speed and shifting, ect. ect?

That would work, yes. Eventually you'll be doing the two simultaneously.

All the friction point is where the collar and the drive gear starts to mesh together. This is when its getting the very minimum part of the available power from the engine. The gear is rotating based on the friction with the gear and is probably not even meshed up correctly at this point. Which is why it's called the friction zone.

If you let out the clutch without hitting the throttle, then the engine won't have enough RPMs to keep up and will choke and die. So when you get to the friction zone, apply a bit of throttle, let the clutch out slowly, and you're on your way.


A lot to think about at first, which is why God invented parking lots.

thats what i thought, but if i let it out slowly it gets enough to go forward at like 2 grand and just moves without me even touching the throttle..

I agree with Shiv, but you can start the roll without any throttle applied. If you release the clutch entirely with no throttle, of course you'll stall, but it shouldn't take much to keep it rolling.

well my bike idols at around 1500.. so maybe thats why its proceeding forward with no throttle? i mean i have to let it out pretty slowly for it to do this but.. i dono it seems fine with me cause once i can predict it like everyone said, i can just hit that FZ point and give it throttle and take off.. right?

well i want to go practice this right now, but unfortunetly its raining.

Rain is satan.

Driving a limo?