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Kal wrote:You arent a fan of Black Rain by any chance?

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Never seen that, looks good though.

What do you mean by real old ones? How are older swords better than new ones? They still hand forge swords but some places will do it with todays newer, lighter and stronger alloys... wouldn't those be better?

storysunfolding wrote:What do you mean by real old ones? How are older swords better than new ones? They still hand forge swords but some places will do it with todays newer, lighter and stronger alloys... wouldn't those be better?

It's a collectors thing. The same reason why a mint condition 1902 Indian would go for more than most new bikes out today. Rare.

storysunfolding wrote:What do you mean by real old ones? How are older swords better than new ones? They still hand forge swords but some places will do it with todays newer, lighter and stronger alloys... wouldn't those be better?

If memory serves, and I don't have any books here to confirm Japan was banned from making swords with the end of the Second World War as the Samurai caste was outlawed and Japan adopted the peace clause of the constitution.

Regardless many of the Master Swordsmith techniques had already been lost. The process of swordmaking was as much a black art as a techincal exercise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana

god bless wikipedia.


I have a rather nice katana, though I doubt it was traditionally forged it still is a cut above most of the swords you will find on the internet.

<dramatic voice> It was my father's sword. </dramatic voice>

Most likely the schitzo ninja/samurai sword on that site is some brittle steel that takes an edge nicely, but would chip if put to use.

Too bad they updated the wikipedia article because the last version had a link to these guys who shot a traditionally forged sword(well, neo traditional) with a .50cal machine gun and a 9mm, it withstood about seven shots in the same place, edge on, from the .50cal

storysunfolding wrote:What do you mean by real old ones? How are older swords better than new ones? They still hand forge swords but some places will do it with todays newer, lighter and stronger alloys... wouldn't those be better?

The older swords are the "real" as in forged and actually were a samurai's sword - it belonged to someone and was in use. The "fake" swords are mad from alloys and are not as strong, and are only used for decoration purposes - no real action. New "real" swords are new production forged. Those are very pricey as well. The different between the 'new real' swords and 'old real' swords is that old ones are used and with a history, new a newly produced forged.


Real swords also have sharpe blades. Decoration swords are very dull and thick blades.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana

god bless wikipedia.

I have a rather nice katana, though I doubt it was traditionally forged it still is a cut above most of the swords you will find on the internet.

"katana" is japanese for "sword". Refer to my explanation above about forged. But what they do to build strong blades is continuously fold over the metal onto itself. That's how they get waves in the blade too (the kind you see on the side, not a crooked blade).

Eh, what's most important to me is that my dad gave it to me. It's a memory, something of his.

Most likely the blade was not production forged ( by that I mean not made in a factory ) and the blade does exhibit some ripples but I have no idea where he purchased the sword or how much he paid. I saw one with a similar sheath but I didn't get to ask the man where he bought it.

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KingRobb wrote:

Britjoe wrote:Im sorry but I think if I had to live in a world where I had to carry a gun or a sword heaven forbid, Id move...Id leave, WTF

So what part of never never land do you live in?

Man, I didn't realize that carrying a gun was a requirement for Indianapolis.

I'll add that to the list of places to *never* go. I'll put it right under Cleveland.

Its not just Indianapolis. I view any major city as a place better to carry than not. Indy's main problem as far as crime areas and safer areas is that they are mixed up. You can be in a really nice neighborhood and travel less than 2 miles in any direction and be in middle of the "hood".

I do find it hilarious that people on here who wouldn't trust their own skills to not wear a helmet, will trust that they wont need a weapon to defend themselves against the most dangerous animal on the planet.

BTW in a little over 12 years i have yet to be placed in a situation where pulling was a neccesary option.

No one ever "needs" anything until the day they need it. I like to go on the saying "tis better to need it and have it than to need it and not have it". Spare tire anyone?

I knew someone would bring up this arguement...

When was the last time a kid got a hold of a spare tire and killed himself or one of his friends with it?...When was the last time somebody accidentally killed his roomate with a fire extuinger because he thought his roomate was an intruder?

Not much risk associated with keeping a spare tire around, is there?

Like I said before it comes down to risk vs. reward.

Its not just Indianapolis. I view any major city as a place better to carry than not. Indy's main problem as far as crime areas and safer areas is that they are mixed up. You can be in a really nice neighborhood and travel less than 2 miles in any direction and be in middle of the "hood".

Just like in Dallas/ Ft. Worth where I live...and I've never needed to carry.
I find it "hilarious" that people aren't afraid of riding without a helmet, yet they are too scared to go outside their home unless they have a hand cannon strapped to them