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jstark47 wrote:

RhadamYgg wrote:And anyone ending a price in any varient of 99 should be shot on sight.

Ya just wiped out my company's marketing department. Which means I have to write my project's marketing content myself, which is, y'know, like really annoying....... nah, I think we'll let them live.

king robb wrote:Marketing prices with asteriks are an annoying fact of life.

So is thread drift!!!!

HAHA no doubt...

I will bring her home then.

Looks like Harley shutting down Buell was a great was to create some liquid cash...Seems like everyone is buying an 1125 about no...everyone but me

king robb wrote:

High_Side wrote:The thing that pisses me off is that these "essential" costs should be included in the advertised price. If there is a cost to handlebars and my warranty is void without them, then they should be included in the price. If I'm not getting the bike out the door without paying for PDI and freight well then don't advertise prices for the bikes without them included fershristsakes.

Marketing prices with asteriks are an annoying fact of life.

And for the Marketers in the crowd: People like myself who buy on the all-in price are annoying fact of their lives. Dealerships who tip-toe around the "all-in" price appear to be hiding something. If you want to sell your bike at the lowest price in town and hide the real price of the bike in $1500 of PDI, freight and destination charges good for you.....but I'm not buying.

As a case in point, the newer foo-foo Ducati shop in town used just this tactic. They would even painfully tip toe around the real price when asked bluntly about what the out the door price would be. I bought at the older straightforward shop that gave me the answer within 10 seconds of asking and ended up saving a significant amout of $$$ in the process. They are still in business. As of last week the other shop is not. I like to think that this is a direct result of choosing whether or not to run a business for the long term or somewhat deceptively for the quick buck.

Gummiente wrote:

RhadamYgg wrote:Some of these bikes have been shown in dealers for years. Delivered years of utility to the dealer with people sitting on them and determining if they fit the bike or not.

Once they pass a fiscal year the cost of assembling the bike is already expensed on their accounting.

Assembling a bike and putting it on the showroom floor is a cost of doing business, not a service to the end purchaser - who had no choice in the matter that the bike be shipped in a smaller container and not fully assembled.

Tell you what. Next time you buy a bike, ask them to deduct the PDI, freight and assembly costs and let me know how you make out with that.

You never know about these things. Depending on the environment, my confidence and other stuff, I could make out well.... Or not, because I'm a big "wimp".

RhadamYgg

High_Side wrote:

king robb wrote:

High_Side wrote:The thing that pisses me off is that these "essential" costs should be included in the advertised price. If there is a cost to handlebars and my warranty is void without them, then they should be included in the price. If I'm not getting the bike out the door without paying for PDI and freight well then don't advertise prices for the bikes without them included fershristsakes.

Marketing prices with asteriks are an annoying fact of life.

And for the Marketers in the crowd: People like myself who buy on the all-in price are annoying fact of their lives. Dealerships who tip-toe around the "all-in" price appear to be hiding something. If you want to sell your bike at the lowest price in town and hide the real price of the bike in $1500 of PDI, freight and destination charges good for you.....but I'm not buying.

As a case in point, the newer foo-foo Ducati shop in town used just this tactic. They would even painfully tip toe around the real price when asked bluntly about what the out the door price would be. I bought at the older straightforward shop that gave me the answer within 10 seconds of asking and ended up saving a significant amout of $$$ in the process. They are still in business. As of last week the other shop is not. I like to think that this is a direct result of choosing whether or not to run a business for the long term or somewhat deceptively for the quick buck.

Agreed...and thats why when I opened my screen shop, I rolled all of my set up fees into the unit price...so I could market to people who like straight shooters. It hurts though...people respond to low numbers...even when it bites em from behind.

Fact is, shady marketing works...glad to hear of an instance that being straight gave staying power though...makes me feel good about my business plan.

RhadamYgg wrote:

Gummiente wrote:

RhadamYgg wrote:Some of these bikes have been shown in dealers for years. Delivered years of utility to the dealer with people sitting on them and determining if they fit the bike or not.

Once they pass a fiscal year the cost of assembling the bike is already expensed on their accounting.

Assembling a bike and putting it on the showroom floor is a cost of doing business, not a service to the end purchaser - who had no choice in the matter that the bike be shipped in a smaller container and not fully assembled.

Tell you what. Next time you buy a bike, ask them to deduct the PDI, freight and assembly costs and let me know how you make out with that.

You never know about these things. Depending on the environment, my confidence and other stuff, I could make out well.... Or not, because I'm a big "wimp".

RhadamYgg

Has nothing to do with being a wimp or not RhadamYgg, at the end of the day the dealerships usually have the cards...and they play them to recover those expenses...however inflated they are. Truth is if you ask you can always get something discounted if you ask...just remeber that they have to make money or its not worth it to them to sell you a bike.

king robb wrote:Has nothing to do with being a wimp or not RhadamYgg, at the end of the day the dealerships usually have the cards...and they play them to recover those expenses...however inflated they are. Truth is if you ask you can always get something discounted if you ask...just remeber that they have to make money or its not worth it to them to sell you a bike.

Hopefully you'll have better luck getting through to him than I have.