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flynrider wrote:

silentx wrote: No I'll stick to what I said before... I'd rather hit a rock than a truck/car

Well, you did say you were inexperienced. I've bounced off (and over) a lot of cars over the years and I'd much rather do that than hit solid rock. A solid unmoving object is going to cause your body to absorb most of the energy of the crash.

NO... sorry.... I am not convinced

Still better than getting run over.

Kal wrote:

Koss wrote:

silentx wrote:
Also I belive riding on streets gives you NO canyon exp.

Depends on where you live

Affirm that.

You were riding beyond your skill level and need to figure out how not to end up in that position again.

If you were decking the pegs out then you were almost certainly attacking the corners too fast for this point in your career.

So whats the repair estimate on the ninja and what are you planning to do next?

I Agree.. Now that I have thought about the accident for few days.

As for the repair... not sure how much. I am sure it will be more than 500 and the bike only worth about 1400 ( in good condition) I might make this a project and move on to a new bike.

I know I can't afford a new one yet. I might not have a bike for about next 4 months.

As for what bike to get... Not really sure... I learned a great lesson from this accident. When something happens its 90% rider and 10% bike. So... next bike? I know its not going to be an R1 for sure. Probably an R6. Again its not for sure… I got few months to think about it.

I am also thinking about a Dual Sport.

Well, I'm not smart enough to offer advice, or tell you what you did wrong, so I'll just say I'm glad you weren't seriously hurt.

CajunBass wrote:Well, I'm not smart enough to offer advice, or tell you what you did wrong, so I'll just say I'm glad you weren't seriously hurt.

thank you.

I am sure you are smart enough

You just wrecked a NINJA 250.... and you want to just move up to an R6??

Here's a thought, why don't you stick with a 250 for a few more months and see if you can keep from crashing again.

We had a thread before about your maturity level and how everyone thought you were under 18, and you said why oh why does everyone think I'm so young? This isn't an english board... blah blah blah.

THIS IS WHY. This thread right here. Re-read it if you have to... pretend that your posts are from someone else.

Before you move up to an R6, you should be damn sure you can corner on a ninja 250 without losing control. Actually, you might want to do yourself a favor and go find a 125.

You obviously don't have the basics required for riding a ninja 250, so what makes you think that you can handle an R6 without leaving a trail of plastic and radiator fluid behind you?

I held off on posting in this thread because I didn't want to be an "O Ring"... but, whatever, I feel like I can at least try to dissuade someone from making a potentially life-threatening decision.

I say he buys a Hayabusa. The gene pool will thank me later...

He kept talking about how riding in the street doesn't prepare you for canyon riding. I think that is totall BS. Any riding is good practice. Maybe he should have stuck to riding in the street some before trying to tackle the canyon...

DivideOverflow wrote:You just wrecked a NINJA 250.... and you want to just move up to an R6?? YES! But don’t come to any conclusions since I said I am not sure (as I mentioned in the prev post; I am not sure if I would get an R6... and I don’t think you saw that)

Here's a thought, why don't you stick with a 250 for a few more months and see if you can keep from crashing again.

We had a thread before about your maturity level and how everyone thought you were under 18, and you said why oh why does everyone think I'm so young? This isn't an english board... blah blah blah. Here we go again, But I love you guys anyways.
THIS IS WHY. This thread right here. Re-read it if you have to... pretend that your posts are from someone else.

Before you move up to an R6, you should be damn sure you can corner on a ninja 250 without losing control. Actually, you might want to do yourself a favor and go find a 125.

You obviously don't have the basics required for riding a ninja 250( on a canyon? ), so what makes you think that you can handle an R6 without leaving a trail of plastic and radiator fluid behind you? My accident had nothing to do with engine power, it was the Canyon and the rider. If I were to stay to the street and ( probably the track with instruction) and stay away from canyons until I get the power band down. That’s what makes me think I can handle an R6 without leaving a trail of plastic and radiator fluid behind you?

I held off on posting in this thread because I didn't want to be an "O Ring"... but, whatever, I feel like I can at least try to dissuade someone from making a potentially life-threatening decision.

I totally do Understand what you are trying to say and I appreciate that, and don’t think I am arguing, because I am not. Just throwing out what I think. I am one of those guys who listen to reasons. In fact that’s why I ended up buying a 250 instead of a gixxr 750.


If my bike was RideAble I would ride for another six months, but its not. I have so far ridden the bike for about 4 months.

I say this again I am not sure what my plans are so don’t jump in to any conclusions. I truly don’t think you fully read my post, because you didn’t see the part I said about the Dual Sport.

DivideOverflow wrote:You just wrecked a NINJA 250.... and you want to just move up to an R6??

Here's a thought, why don't you stick with a 250 for a few more months and see if you can keep from crashing again.

We had a thread before about your maturity level and how everyone thought you were under 18, and you said why oh why does everyone think I'm so young? This isn't an english board... blah blah blah.

THIS IS WHY. This thread right here. Re-read it if you have to... pretend that your posts are from someone else.

Before you move up to an R6, you should be damn sure you can corner on a ninja 250 without losing control. Actually, you might want to do yourself a favor and go find a 125.

You obviously don't have the basics required for riding a ninja 250, so what makes you think that you can handle an R6 without leaving a trail of plastic and radiator fluid behind you?

I held off on posting in this thread because I didn't want to be an "O Ring"... but, whatever, I feel like I can at least try to dissuade someone from making a potentially life-threatening decision.

Thats what ive been thinking since this thread first popped up, but I guess im just to darn nice to say what was on my mind.

But just to reiterate what I said before, there are many many many different ways to "CONSERVE" cornering clearance, you might be dragging the pegs, but with proper form you will have much more clearance than your finding now. I agree with you that 90%+ is the rider, and 10% is the bike. Motorcycles reward their rider from smooth, polished, technique.

A big way in conserving corner clearance is by not compressing the suspension when initiating a turn or lean.

I know you said that clearance wasn't the contributing factor in your crash, and from what ive read about the details in your crash, you are right. But I keep repeating what ive said over and over again because you feel you can move up to a bigger "better" bike. I really do disagree. Sometimes I want to get rid of my 500 for a 600, but I find more things I can improve myself on and throw the idea out the window.

You crashed on a 250 because of a simple mistake. You lacked, by a certain degree, either the ability to place your motorcycle exactly where you wanted, the ability to choose a correct line, the ability to set yourself up from the last turn for the next one, the ability to set up for a good enter for the corner, the ability to judge your speed on the upcoming corner, the ability to control the direction of the bike. Maybe it was one, maybe it was a combination of many. But somewhere you messed up. Like everyone does, even seasoned racers crash on race day. Maybe conditions on the road, or the weather stressed your body and contributed. So many variables...

In my honest opinion, I don't think you are ready for a race replica sport bike. Even if its a "humble" 600. Those things are beasts. You crashed a 250, and I don't think it was the bikes fault. The bike can still bring out alot of skill and talent from you, so give it a chance. You will want as much practice, and skill you can get before you get a beautiful r6. If you can't afford to fix some damage to your 250, and not be able to ride 4 months... whats going to happen when you barely damage an r6?

Do me a favor please, and instead of spending 4 months of saving up to get an r6, fix your 250 ASAP, and get as much riding in as you possible can. Im not trying to be a "o-ring" and diss you, and down play you. I'm putting your safety, and your hopefully long riding career in mind. I want you to move up to an r6, and eventually an r1... just like how I want to for myself with the same beautiful bikes. But I want the both of us to do it right, so when we do get those bikes... those bikes have proper owners who will treat them right and not do them wrong by crashing them.

I know if I went out and got an r6 right now, my chances of crashing would be GREATLY increased. And Ive yet to even put a scratch on my 500 as of date. And Im constantly in bad situations on the road, some from traffic, some from lack of proper road maintance or cleaning, heck I had to just recently buy a new rear tire because of nails. Never saw the flat black nail at night riding home.

Ok ill do everyone a favor and stop my godzilla of a post now.

Thanks for the advice guys. We will see what happens.

Before I buy my bike I want to be financially stable. I don’t know how soon that’s going to happen. This accident opened up my eyes. I now know bikes go down so easily

Most likely I will be riding on tracks (after I get instructions) and very less on the streets and canyons. That’s how I see it. Then again I am not sure. As of now I am a lost Soul.

By the way I FEEL EXTREMELY LONELY WITH OUT MY BIKE… it’s a beautiful, sunny, Saturday

I don't know if I could do that, I mean mostly ride tracks.

The world is an awefully large place to just be stuck riding in circles for a few miles at a time.

Well, whatever you decide on doing, good luck with it.