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Uh, how is the back wheel being held on in that second pic?

The same way the rest of the motorcycle is being held on in that picture.
Like this http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/di ... amera1.htm

I think you can see one spoke pointing straight up...the others are blocked from view.

It isn't a very good pick (I took it straight off Suzuki's web site).

He chose the GSX-R 750 I bet.

And VX, what ever happened to race school? With what you save by getting the power ranger rd SV650S instead of the power ranger red GSX-R 600, you can take that class. $5 says you with the SV and race class will ride better than you on the 600.

I was just reading the European bike mag TWO and saw the Suzuki GSR 600. Looks great for a naked bike. take a look http://motorbikes.tiscali.co.uk/display ... 3?id=23438

Dunno if it will make it here though...

I dont want to stick up for VX too much, because some of his reasoning is... interesting. If he likes the look of the GSX-R bikes, that is perfectly reasonable. The gixxer is plain and simple a better bike than the SV and if the price point doesnt matter to him then why would it matter to other people?

Maybe he should get a Ninja 250 so a bunch of strangers he has never met wont go off on him on a message board. Or maybe he should do what he is doing, which I happen to think is halfway intelligent.

I thought it was fine to give him some advice on his next bike. VX made a decent choice, now people are going off on him for no good reason. Sure, color is a little more important to him than most, but give it a rest.

And my official advice on getting an SV650s?? I own an SV650s and have ridden a GSX-R600- Get the gixxer, its a much better bike.

Hah... people would rag on him just as much (or more) for having a wimpy little 250 I think.

GeoffXR200R... no, he didn't like the GSX-R 750 because it isn't red and black.

I personally am not ripping on him for his bike choice. I don't think it's the best idea. A cheaper bike can be bought to learn on and that's a smarter thing to do. The extra $ can be spent at a quality riding school. I think if a person is VERY careful, they could go with a 600 SS for a first bike and be OK. I know I rode a 2001 R6 a good bit one summer(it was my roommate's) and I never had an "incident". Looking back, I guess I was lucky and I'm glad I didn't start on something like that.

But the main reason Verm is getting ripped apart here:

Being that he completely ignores every piece of advice given to him by EXPERIENCED riders on this board and basically says "shove it up your "O Ring", I'm going to do it my way." He will say anything to justify whatever the new thing is he's going to do today.

He constantly talks about track days, dragging a knee, etc. Concepts which are reserved for riders WAAAAYY past his skill level. Yet when he's told he should stick to basics, he starts talking about, you guessed it, track days and racing school.

Taking a new bike and wanting to do stupid modifications to it which will only screw it up and increase HP, neither of which a beginning biker needs.

All he breathes and eats is "racing, racing, racing" but won't go buy a shop manual and show the ambition to do basic bike maintenance.

He doesn't "take the abuse". He only hears what he wants to hear.

You have to take small steps before you can run.

Think about who you'd laugh at more at a trackday:

A nice, humble apparent beginner on something like an SV650 or EX500. He bought used leathers and the bike is used too. He wanted to have $ left over to pay for some instruction. He's trying to learn but he's not very fast. He's eating up advice from the experienced riders like there's no tomorrow. Slowly he improves but it takes a while.

Some DOOD on a brand new GSX-R 600 with full racing leathers that costed half the price of the bike. He goes on and on about dragging his knee in the parking lot, trail braking, his new TRE. But he's a mess on the track and can't turn a lap time to save his butt. He won't listen to any advice and has a bunch of excuses for his poor performance. But damn he looks cool though.

Soon, the guy on the EX/SV is whacking the pants off "rossi" on his gixxer.

I know who I'd laugh at harder...

So basically yeah, I agree with mintbread here.

CNF2002 wrote:Uh, how is the back wheel being held on in that second pic?

The same way the front wheel is being held up...by the spokes. 3 spokes on the wheel, they just positioned the wheels to hide as much of the spokes as possible.

Sorry V, I'll stop giving you such a hard time. I may not agree with his decision to buy a Gixxer 600, but the key word there is "HIS" decision. I've made my opinion known, now it's all up to you! Good luck out there. I just pray that you'll be alright!

I thought someone had photochopped the spokes out