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Gummiente wrote:

beginner wrote:It's beyond my ability right now.

Perhaps it is beyond your ability to ride. Nothing but pages of figure 8's and other parking lot practices from you.... maybe it's time to just shut the hell up and GO RIDE.

Last summer the pattern was 2 hours of riding a day divided 50-50 between the parking lot and everywhere else. I would practice more but an hour is all I can do with good concentration. My enjoyment is developing the skills.

Gummiente wrote:Post some pics of your favourite NON-PARKING LOT rides and destinations. Tell us what you like about riding ON THE STREETS. Enlighten us as to what your favourite type of motorcycle is and why.

I ride around the farm and on the nearby roads which are mostly gravel. The nearest traffic is 30 miles away. I ride on a klx300r bought used. I can't seem to identify a bike that's any better for the purpose. Pictures won't tell you much, farm roads and foot paths in flat country are about the same everywhere.

CaptCrashIdaho wrote:You're not slipping the rear. Just...you ain't.

I coudn't talk about it unless I figured it out for myself. Show me anyplace where this is written about or discussed.

beginner wrote:]First, I do nothing so dramatic as in those videos. Regardless, the rear tire slips by nature, not just by applying a techniqe. If the rear was as sticky as the front sliping the rear would be a lot harder. The rear tire uses up traction by scrubing, that creates more slip than in the front. Near the traction limit it happens at low speeds or higher speeds.

OH, yesssss, the drift I presented is SuperMoto drifting on clean, dry pavement...drifts that are entered into by breaking the rear loose at speeds generally higher than 30mph.

I offer video of honest, outside tracking slipping. You offer? A feeling? That only you can feel. That feeling, which could simply be underinflated tires is something you refuse to reconsider--it is what you want it to be.

Everyone who has dealt with you and attempted to help sway you; James Davis, Kieth Code, all the folks at the All Things Motorcycle Forum, or the Bay Area Riders Forum, or the BeginnerBikers Forum, or the guys at Motorcycle-Journal have given you good qualified, intelligent, skilled and patient advice which you ignore.

Honestly I think the LEOs at BARF were very kind to you and indulged you--until you got to the "I'm drifting the bike at 10mph" where they seemed to simply walk away. I would encourage you to stick with a place where you were getting the help you wanted! They are willing to watch your vids and make constructive comments--yet rather than fostering that relationship you reach out everywhere you can to alienate and belittle.

Seems to me that you simply enjoy being...wrong.

The Bhudda teaches: "He is not the same, nor is he another."

You, on this forum are as you were on every other forum you've visited. You are the different and the same. The outcome is always different yet the same.

Good luck with that.

Gummiente wrote:Post some pics of your favourite NON-PARKING LOT rides and destinations.

Driveways, field edges, foot paths, etc. We made some trails too. There are roads but I don't seem to have any pictures of those.

storysunfolding wrote:I never wanted to comment on that before but anyone see rear wheel slip?

TEvo wrote:In the video? Yeah, Kiyonari is spinning up the rear. A lot.

Sorry- didn't look at the video. I thought he was posting his own video of slipping the rear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gblc_lGmHWc

(waiting for youtube title change from "25 weeks, oversteer/slip practice in a figure 8" to something completely different)

storysunfolding wrote: Sorry- didn't look at the video. I thought he was posting his own video of slipping the rear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gblc_lGmHWc

(waiting for youtube title change from "25 weeks, oversteer/slip practice in a figure 8" to something completely different)

Actually, it's an excellent example of how the rear tracks inside the front. No slip but you can really watch the rear wheel track coming along inside the front wheel track.

I would warn folks who practice like this about the dangers of becoming complacent. The danger is eventually you're just riding in your wheel ruts on autopilot without any concious thought about what you're doing. The well worn path actually becomes a rut that you'll just mindlessly follow around--which embeds a dangerous behavior not unlike following the brakelights in front of you.

Practicing in new and different venues is a valuable way to stay alert and aware. I have 4 lots I use just to keep things mixed up.

CaptCrashIdaho wrote:Practicing in new and different venues is a valuable way to stay alert and aware. I have 4 lots I use b/c I keep getting chased away

fixed it

storysunfolding wrote:

CaptCrashIdaho wrote:Practicing in new and different venues is a valuable way to stay alert and aware. I have 4 lots I use b/c I keep getting chased away

fixed it

It's the chasin' that keeps it fresh and excitn'!

Stupid governments should just look at the real cause of bike related accidents. Most of the time it'll be a stupid cager not paying attention or an unlicensed rider.

Enforce the laws already in place instead of banning something based on ignorance. Some people should be killed to save the rest of humanity.

JC Viper wrote:Stupid governments should just look at the real cause of bike related accidents. Most of the time it'll be a stupid cager not paying attention or an unlicensed rider.

Enforce the laws already in place instead of banning something based on ignorance. Some people should be killed to save the rest of humanity.

Hey, mandated practice would save us all...and end the plague of overwieght gophers!